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16 February 2009 @ 11:04 pm
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Now, I want to talk about jam. For years I never realised that Americans call this 'jelly', so you can imagine what I thought about 'peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.' I've rarely been so let down as when I discovered that your jelly is just jam. Making jelly (Jello?) for the purpose of combining it with bread and peanut butter - something I've never tasted, which probably accounts for my overwhelming interest in it - struck me as delightfully decadent. One day, you know, I'm going to make this, just to satisfy my curiosity. I predict that it will be both messy and disgusting.

I have a jumbly sort of review in my head for AAR's When the World Comes Down, sadly hampered by the fact that I know jack shit about music. Mona Lisa is definitely my favourite song on the album, also known in my head as 'The Love Song of Nick and Tyson' - no one will be able to convince me otherwise! Don't even try! I can hear, or think I hear, elements of Blur, Regina Spektor and ... Come On Eileen. Which. Come On Eileen is a great song! I much prefer these influences to the Beatles. Despite jehnt's best efforts, I'm never going to be more than blase about the Beatles. I prefer my music more meaningful and better produced, and also, liking the Beatles is so generic. It's like saying DUDE I TOTALLY KNOW WHO ELVIS IS. Or THAT JESUS GUY, HE WAS POPULAR, HUH? John Lennon did say he wanted to be more famous than God; this is the price you pay.

As a thank you to complications_g, for providing me with the opportunity to ramble incoherently and at length about this, I drew a little sketch.

I'm starting to realise why all my art teachers were so down on drawing from photographs; there's about zero percent artistic merit in it. Also, I didn't realise till I was on the second last layer than NICK'S HEAD IS TOO SKINNY. Let's pretend he accidentally got stuck in a pincers, okay?

In spite of this, I've had more fun drawing this past week than I have writing for many a long year. It also feels good to be able to GIVE people something - my fics turn out so long, and queer, and puzzling, that they're not gift-worthy material, even if I could write to order like that.

How is it easier to find The Used icons than AAR icons?! WORLD!
Current Mood: recumbentrecumbent
Current Music: mona lisa // all american rejects
mrsquizzicalmrsquizzical on February 16th, 2009 11:27 pm (UTC)
the whole jam/jelly/jello communication divide has been fodder for many 'but... but....' conversations indeed.

i do love the idea of actually making jelly to then eat on sandwiches. ha!
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: bands PATD Brendon twirly fingersscoradh on February 16th, 2009 11:29 pm (UTC)
It's sort of like when you're a kid, and someone gets an ice-cream maker, and you're like NOW WE CAN MAKE ICE-CREAM BREAD! Only, the world doesn't work like that...
oops: Smileoddishly on February 16th, 2009 11:33 pm (UTC)
Lololol icecream bread :DDD
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Fashion: william morris-esquescoradh on February 16th, 2009 11:38 pm (UTC)
It sounds just as awesome as it wouldn't be.
Geoviki: Atsushi Sakurai - leavesgeoviki on February 17th, 2009 12:29 am (UTC)
That's almost right. In the US, 'jelly' is 'jam' with all the actual fruit bits strained out. 'Jam' has the pulp/seeds, unless you buy 'seedless', which is as it says.

I only ate peanut butter and jelly for the first 16 years of life. Except I was such a picky eater that I demanded that one-half of the sandwich be solely pb, and the other half solely jelly. If they touched...OMG!
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Scene girls: dancescoradh on February 17th, 2009 12:31 am (UTC)
Ew. Jam with seeds in it. That's obscene.

Geoviki: aretha hat - Miyavigeoviki on February 17th, 2009 05:01 am (UTC)
Two totally separate halves, of course.
every Starbucks should have a polar bearscoradh on February 17th, 2009 01:08 pm (UTC)
Dude. That's not a sandwich. That's just bread.
daybreaqdaybreaq on February 17th, 2009 01:01 am (UTC)
Actually we use both terms ... well, truly we have use multiple terms for pretty much the same thing: Jelly/jam/preserves/all fruit (Though I think the latter is just one specific brand: They had a popular commercial where some apparently upper class people are eating ... excuse me, dining at a table asking each other to pass the "all fruit" when some cowboy hick type asks them to "please pass the jelly" and they are all horrified!)

There's supposed to be a difference but I don't think anyone *really* knows what it is. I think jelly is generally thinner made from fruit that has been completely liquified. Jam is thicker with mashed fruit that's not completely liquified. While preserves have whole recognizable pieces of fruit in it. The Smuckers Blueberry Preserves that I prefer in my PB&J sandwiches has whole blueberries in it. Still, regardless of whether the stuff you end up using is labeled as "Jelly", "Jam", "Preserves," "All Fruit" or whatever, when you mix it with peanut butter on bread, the resulting sandwich is called a "peanut butter and jelly" sandwich or "PB&J".

Now, don't let me get into dessert toppings ....

.... Going off to make myself a PB&J ... um excuse me, a Peanut Butter and Smuckers Blueberry Preserves sandwich. ;)
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Art: cupcakesscoradh on February 17th, 2009 03:03 am (UTC)
That is certainly ... a superfluity of terms. 'Jam' pretty much covers all bases here, mainly because I'm pretty sure you don't get all those options. Jam, here, is practically solid.

Oh man, I always thought of PBJs as being with strawberry jam! Raspberry is unholy, and as for blueberry - I suppose it can't be as bad as blackberry, ERLACK ERLACK, but what even IS a blueberry?
daybreaqdaybreaq on February 17th, 2009 03:40 am (UTC)
Seriously?! You've never had them? They are such a completely common fruit in the US! I had to do a quick google because I really didn't know the history or where they are grown. I didn't even know that they were actually honest to goodness native to N. America! I think so much of what we grow for food isn't and is actually transplanted from other continents.

And they don't grow them in the UK; but Roald Dahl was British and wrote about one of the most memorable uses of the blueberry: Violet Beauregarde turned into one in "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory!" So I guess I kinda assumed blueberries were pretty commonly known.

They DO grow them in Australia!


They are not seedy like raspberries or blackberries. The fat, ripe ones are juicy and sweet. Small, shriveled ones can be bitter. Good blueberries tend to be sweeter than raspberries, blackberries are even strawberries.
daybreaqdaybreaq on February 17th, 2009 03:47 am (UTC)
Oh, and I forgot to add that I believe to most prevalent jelly used in PB&J here is grape most usually purple colored. There is a white variety but that's considered pretty exotic for jelly.
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Art: b&w kissesscoradh on February 17th, 2009 02:06 pm (UTC)
Liblibgirl on February 17th, 2009 04:05 am (UTC)
There is actually a real difference. :D Jelly has less fruit and no seeds etc., and is more gelatinous. Jam has really fruit and seeds etc. and is less gelatinous and not as easy to spread. Preserves are literally fruit that is dessicated and preserved--they're very thick, have seeds etc. in them and aren't properly spreadable. :D

Also, the classic PB&J is made with Grape Jelly ;). It's the default jelly when you're a kid. I've always preferred strawberry myself, but there you go.
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: bands PATD Ryan blue shirtscoradh on February 17th, 2009 02:07 pm (UTC)
Grape jelly, oh the decadance! It's like grape juice, it just SOUNDS so good. :D
Matchy西: when in doubt use your tonguematchynishi on February 17th, 2009 01:47 am (UTC)
"Americans call this 'jelly'... your jelly is just jam."

.............WHAT. *have never realized it*

............*even though she now lives in Canada*

i cannot decide whether this is just utter stupidity or like. utter obliviousness. or maybe a pbj merger of the two... I WAS QUITE HAPPY BELIEVING IN THE EXISTENCE OF PB&(real) JELLY SANDWICHES, DAMN YOU.
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Fashion: corset xrayscoradh on February 17th, 2009 03:04 am (UTC)

Knowledge sucks. D:
&helena;uminohikari on February 17th, 2009 01:49 am (UTC)
But. Jelly is not jello?
every Starbucks should have a polar bearscoradh on February 17th, 2009 03:00 am (UTC)
Yes, it is.
universeunfolduniverseunfold on February 17th, 2009 02:02 am (UTC)
I LOVE Mona Lisa, although I constantly forget that it's called Mona Lisa instead of When the World Comes Down, which is what I call it in my head. Also, Sunshine. And the rest of the album. It's just a good album, I think.
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Art: bandsscoradh on February 17th, 2009 03:01 am (UTC)
It's called both, I think? I prefer Mona Lisa, it is less unwieldy. (I also have irrational hate for albums called after songs on the album - or after the band.) I also like I Wanna A LOT, especially the bit where all the instruments go silent ... :D
Lib: Panic Lovelibgirl on February 17th, 2009 04:01 am (UTC)

In the jam v. jelly thing, I will say this. In the U.S. jam and jelly are different and they're both different from preserves. It's similar, yes, but if someone asks for grape jelly and you give them grape jam, they're going to notice and ask about it. :)

I was in South Africa for a while and the whole jelly v. jelly v. jam v. preserves debate was epic. ;)
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Fashion: bead braceletsscoradh on February 17th, 2009 02:09 pm (UTC)
It SOUNDS epic. I had no idea what I was getting myself into...
girl; obsessed: bandom - baby!rejectscomplications_g on February 17th, 2009 04:03 am (UTC)
Oh, that is so gorgeous! <333

Nick has stubble and a cowboy hat! Tyson is totally focused on him! So pretty! And Nick's head deosn't look too skinny! It's just because Tyson is side-on! ;) Thank you! &scoradh;

I've know about the jam/jelly thing for a while. I think actual jelly in it would be so gross, omg, but peanut butter and jam sandwiches are yummy!

I like Mona Lisa, but I think my fave is either Damn Girl, or Gives You Hell.

Hm. See, I actually really like The Beatles' music. It totally has meaning! It's kinda simple, I get that, but I just it. It's my music I listen to when I just want to sit or think for a bit, or sometimes dance to. Boppy! ;D

I know! I had such a problem, I just made myself a bunch. And then asked hapakitsune to make some too. ;)
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Fashion: princessscoradh on February 17th, 2009 02:14 pm (UTC)
I'm glad you liked it - and commented on it! Everyone else seemed to be studiously ignoring it in favour of jam (understandable, of course, but a little disheartening).

It's funny, I keep thinking AAR - for their age and tenure - should be slightly more ... mature? ... in their lyricism. Not that I don't like their songs, it's just that you'd think they were eighteen. :D

Meh, I think I'd rather bop to more contemporary pop. On this point no one can convince me.

I checked out your icon sources, actually, and went to AB - but I could only find one by him. *sadface*
girl; obsessed: bandom - chris gets grabbycomplications_g on February 18th, 2009 06:43 am (UTC)
The jam is just so distracting. ;)

I have to say, I really don't pay attention to lyrics or what songs are 'about' or anything. But yeah, I can see what you mean.

He did a reasonable batch a while ago ...here!
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Bands Cobra Ryland floweryscoradh on February 18th, 2009 01:00 pm (UTC)
inr. Sad but true.

I'm always listening too hard to lyrics ... if they don't match up with the quality of the music, I fail at being sold. However, if the lyrics are awesome, I can forgive a lot musically. (As Is by Ani DiFranco springs to mind.)

Yay! But even at that there's only a few ... I like icons majorly customised. I only wish I had the skill myself. D:
girl; obsessed: bandom - princesscomplications_g on February 18th, 2009 01:05 pm (UTC)
I'm sold easily, I just have to like the sound. ;) Even if the lyrics are horrible and mean or something. /fail

Yeah, me too, I have icon ~standards. ;)
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: BANDS PATD Brendon multicoloured squaresscoradh on February 18th, 2009 01:11 pm (UTC)
lol, I'm so the total opposite. Words are everything to me, whereas you only need the most basic, generic, ear-pleasing chords to satisfy me musically.

Maybe I should attempt to up my skills in iconage instead of drawing...
girl; obsessed: bandom - baby!spencercomplications_g on February 18th, 2009 01:13 pm (UTC)
Do both!
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Fashion: stripey socksscoradh on February 18th, 2009 02:30 pm (UTC)
TO HAVE THE TIME ;_______________;

Awww, little Spence's chubby cheeks!
girl; obsessed: bandom - ryan and spencercomplications_g on February 18th, 2009 02:32 pm (UTC)
bb!Spencer is <3
cleodoxacleodoxa on February 17th, 2009 10:02 am (UTC)
I just wanted to say that those things you mention about your stories are some of the things that are fantastic about your writing. I think you need to be able to write something nobody else could have written if it's going to be worth your time writing, or other people's in reading it. And you can do that. Re Villette - it's my favourite Bronte book and probably ignored even more than Anne's stuff. I think maybe it makes other people uncomfortable as well as you. I can see how if you identify with the heroine, you might just want Lucy Snowe/Charlotte Bronte to go and be happy someplace far away from you. The book isn't a romance though, it isn't even a story, just a THIS IS WHAT IT'S LIKE BEING ME thing. It makes me think of "To those that have more shall be given, to those that have not shall be taken even what they have." Sometimes I do like books that go off on a tangent and decide "I will do this and nothing else", because they do what they have decided to do very well. I think Bronte decided, probably once she was already a good deal of the way through writing, that this book was going to be about the sort of person she thought she was, who don't get happy endings, who do find themselves a bit inadequate, and have to live with both. It would have been nice if she'd lived happily ever after with Paul, but that story has been told plenty of times. I don't know that it's not a good thing to have just one book all about what it's like to be someone like Lucy Snowe (otherwise known as whiny little bitch . . .) Sorry about the essay.
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Scene girls: multicolouredscoradh on February 17th, 2009 02:28 pm (UTC)
I think Bronte decided, probably once she was already a good deal of the way through writing, that this book was going to be about the sort of person she thought she was, who don't get happy endings, who do find themselves a bit inadequate, and have to live with both.

I have so got absolutely no problem with a story like that, and it would delight my life if I found a proper one. In my stories, I often (at least, I plan to) abandon the usual, generic storyline in favour of suggesting a less than delightful ending, or that an ordinary, okay-ish life is liveable. HOWEVER. My problem with Villette is Bronte's confused aims. Fine if she wanted to write an autobiography; fine if she wanted to expunge a few ghosts; fine if she wanted to write a totally fictional story where the girl doesn't get the guy secondary to her own faults and/or lack of putting out. BUT NOT ALL AT ONCE, OMG. All the strengths of each individual idea were weakened by this treatment, and all the weaknesses strengthened.

I don't mind essays, not at all! Discussion is fun. But you can totally comment on more than one post I make (i.e., on the post about Villette AND the one about jam. Jam is important too).
Merit: Merlin :Omeritjubet on February 17th, 2009 02:32 pm (UTC)
I remember being confused as well. How did they take a sandwich full of jelly to school? Why was it so popular when no one I know ever does it? Even when I realised that jelly = jam, it still seems strange to me. Because my mind could not mesh peanut butter and jelly together. I guess I'll have to try it some day? Then of course I though Jello didn't sound like a real word. And why would they serve it at school? Then I remembered that not everyone went to school where the canteen was, sadly, healthy.

I was also rather bewildered by 'bangs'.
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Scene girls: sulky stripesscoradh on February 17th, 2009 02:38 pm (UTC)
Are you kidding? I started out in Auz, and reading Sweet Valley High was a like trying to translate Arabic without a dictionary. Plus, I got some kind of day planner thing and it told me school started in September. I was like, BITCH, WHAAAAAAAT.
Merit: Bandommeritjubet on February 17th, 2009 02:46 pm (UTC)
I read Sweet Valley High as well. I had books from the 80's with these pastel covers where the Twins had horrid permed hair and always wore these terrible jumpers.

Starting school at the beginning of the high makes so much more sense! What on earth was this thing called middle school? Why did they use fancy latin names for grades? ...they don't have uniforms? Probably didn't help that I was reading these books at age 9.

And I'm a dunce, I forgot to comment on your art. For some reason, I like their ears. And your ability to draw hats so that they look hats :D
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Fashion: pink bikescoradh on February 17th, 2009 02:54 pm (UTC)
And I'm a dunce, I forgot to comment on your art

I was a little worried that people were so horrified by it that they were averting their eyes!

And your ability to draw hats so that they look hats.

Oh, well. It's a skill. :D

I learned SO MUCH about US culture from SVH, no lie. Especially cheerleading!
Merit: Merlin Merlinmeritjubet on February 17th, 2009 03:00 pm (UTC)
I'm a terrible commenter on art because I don't know much about it. 'The shading looks nice' or something like that sounds so dreadfully short. Hence comments on hats. And it is a skill! All my hats look like top hats.

Yes. It didn't make me understand it, but XD
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every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Fashion: Alexis Bledelscoradh on February 18th, 2009 12:57 pm (UTC)
Oh, I've known what it is for a long time, just not exactly what the ingredients entailed...
mesurexit on February 17th, 2009 05:06 pm (UTC)
I am so the same about the Beatles! :D
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Fashion: heart sunglassesscoradh on February 18th, 2009 12:58 pm (UTC)
INR! They're just ... meh. Gimme something with a few more layers, eh.

oh oh oh, didya email him yet?!
mesurexit on February 22nd, 2009 05:59 pm (UTC)
No, I didn't, but I'm aiming to by the end of next week ish. I AM SO SCARED.
every Starbucks should have a polar bearscoradh on February 22nd, 2009 11:59 pm (UTC)

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