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14 February 2010 @ 11:53 pm
for the day that's in it ...  
When I was in town recently I saw a group of schoolgirls - not in itself such an extraordinary event, but these were obviously from one of the rougher schools. They had all the stigmata: tight ponytails, super-short skirts and, of course, huge gold hoop earrings. (I always wondered why Regina George wanted hoop earrings to be 'her' thing - over here, they are the ultimate in tacky.) They are the sort of girls I wouldn't want to catch the eyes of, even in the middle of the day in a busy street. But as I was standing at the bus stop, my gaze was pretty static. So I saw it when two of the toughest-looking girls crossed the street holding hands.

And I just thought, YAY. If kids like that are able to accept a gay couple in their midst, doesn't that prove that we've come a bit further along the way?

Still wouldn't want to come across them in a dark alley, mind you!
 
 
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pir8fancier on February 15th, 2010 12:14 am (UTC)
Yay to the hand holding, but you might be making assumptions here. Here in the U.S., that would be standard attire for the girls who attend my son's high school and we live in an affluent neighborhood. That's not to say that they wouldn't jump me if they had a chance, but it would be for kicks not dollars.
every Starbucks should have a polar bearscoradh on February 17th, 2010 10:24 am (UTC)
I realised after that I probably should have put in some cultural context ... but as you see, it's like three days later and I haven't got around to it. DAMN MED SCHOOL. Anyway, my point is: Irish people are so, so far from being that touchy-feely. PDA is deeply frowned upon. I never hug or kiss my friends, EVER, and would consider it strange if they did. Thus the basis of my assumption.

Also, hoopy earrings (and velour tracksuits) mark you out here as a knacker. I have no idea why they don't try and blend in more, but maybe they like being identified as such? idk.
Harry's complete lack of ducksharriet_vane on February 15th, 2010 12:16 am (UTC)
Where I teach in the Bronx (a pretty rough section of NY) a gay boy can expect to be beaten up and harassed all the time, but gay girls are actually considered the toughest, meanest gang kids, and rule the streets. Even the big tough boys are afraid of them.
every Starbucks should have a polar bearscoradh on February 17th, 2010 10:26 am (UTC)
That's both kind of awesome, and kind of sad (for the gay boys). LOL I HAVE HEARD OF THE BRONX. But your kids sound so amazing despite their presumable disadvantages. :D
Sereniaserenia on February 15th, 2010 02:21 am (UTC)
Nice to see! I think, too, bisexuality is becoming more common in people our age and younger.
On the other hand, the current high-school generation are very into hugs, cheek kisses and hand-holding platonically!
every Starbucks should have a polar bearscoradh on February 17th, 2010 10:27 am (UTC)
On the other hand, the current high-school generation are very into hugs, cheek kisses and hand-holding platonically!

Not in Ireland. Holding hands here is a BIG DEAL, you would only do it with your SO. That's why I thought it was so cool!
wayoffbasewayoffbase on February 15th, 2010 03:52 am (UTC)
Obviously I have no idea what it's like in the UK, but where I am, girls holding hands is pretty common, and it doesn't necessarily mean anything. I agree about the hoop earrings though - they're the ultimate in tacky here, too, although they were pretty cool maybe seven or eight years ago.
Riakessie on February 15th, 2010 08:24 pm (UTC)
It's not common for teenage girls to hold hands in Ireland. Link arms, maybe, but not hold hands. That has an entirely different connotation.

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Edited at 2010-02-15 08:25 pm (UTC)
wayoffbasewayoffbase on February 16th, 2010 09:26 am (UTC)
Oh yup. Well, in that case, it's awesome that they felt comfortable enough to do so.
every Starbucks should have a polar bearscoradh on February 17th, 2010 10:29 am (UTC)
iawtc!!!
every Starbucks should have a polar bearscoradh on February 17th, 2010 10:29 am (UTC)
Hahaha, I'm not sure hoop earrings were ever cool here. They ruined it for us!

As kessie says, holding hands here is very uncommon.
wayoffbasewayoffbase on February 17th, 2010 09:07 pm (UTC)
Lol, well, we thought they were cool, anyway, but I was about twelve at the time, so I'm not sure my fashion judgement was so sound haha.

:D Yeah, I'm used to the complete opposite here (here being New Zealand). Although I'm not sure it's a good thing - the girls here that hold hands seem to be (with a few exceptions) the sort of girls who think it's 'cool' or 'edgy' or whatever to do so, rather than girls who feel comfortable with expressing their affection for other girls.
Remus Buttplug Facelazy_daze on February 15th, 2010 09:29 am (UTC)
When I was in school, we had a mixed bunch including lots of very rough girls like that - the school was equidistant from nice neighbourhoods and council estates, so! Anyway, two of the roughest girls were together and even ENGAGED, in my year, and because they were so popular and so tough they were lauded and popularised for it, even though the school itself - all girl's school - was still homophobic and threw out the lesbian! slur to less popular girls at the drop of a hat. Social dynamics can be so strange!! I still sort of liked that they were what they were and were open and accepted for it, even if it was probably mostly out of fear from others XD
every Starbucks should have a polar bearscoradh on February 17th, 2010 10:31 am (UTC)
OMG THAT IS SO CUTE. IDK, it's still a shame about the slurs, but at least they were sort-of counteracted? God, I spend half my time telling people that using gay as a slur or rape as a joke is NOT OKAY. Eventually someone might get the message.
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every Starbucks should have a polar bearscoradh on February 17th, 2010 10:30 am (UTC)
THIS. ♥
Riakessie on February 15th, 2010 08:25 pm (UTC)
That's all kinds of awesome, but I would have been terrified to make eye contact with them...

Edited at 2010-02-15 08:26 pm (UTC)
every Starbucks should have a polar bearscoradh on February 17th, 2010 10:30 am (UTC)
I pretended I was looking at cars. ;D
Riakessie on February 17th, 2010 02:20 pm (UTC)
Good call! :D
Chesty la Rue: skeeterhogwartshoney on February 16th, 2010 05:51 pm (UTC)
Yeah.... and perhaps those girls would have beat the crap out of anyone who so much as looked at 'em crossways! ;) That attitude'd gain you a lot of freedom, no?
;)
every Starbucks should have a polar bearscoradh on February 17th, 2010 10:29 am (UTC)
I have a feeling that freedom tends to start with aggression ... maybe? :D?