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21 March 2005 @ 10:46 pm
Better lyrical wax than no wax at all!  
*in which Rachel gets protective of her OTP*

*and is also doped up to the eyeballs on H/D badfic*

Please, can somebody tell me where the godawful adjective 'cute' came from - what festering, stinking hole it crawled out of? Because I want to shove it back in oh so badly.

Fair enough, I accept that Americans use it in the sense of, 'Oh, he's so cute!' etc. I would like to think that they stop that after the age of three but I'm reliably informed that it's not the case. I was once told that 'cute' applies to four things: kittens, puppies, babies and teddy-bears, c'est tout, and I've stuck to that. It works because it is true.

Cultural and personal preferences aside, what on earth makes anyone think that, first off the mark, either Draco or Harry could be described as 'cute'? If I had to force that word onto a grown person, I'd probably choose...ehm...Orlando Bloom? Now, Draco looks like a rat; Harry, as myself and coralia13 have been reminding ourselves, wears glasses (odd how Draco never picks on him about that, isn't it? So obvious JK doesn't wear 'em) and has horrendous hair. Oh, that's cute? For crying out loud, let us say it together: I think not.

And even leaving aside the physcial definition of 'cute'; this is the wangstiest ship in the fandom! Hello, a compliment from one to the other would, in all honesty, have to be dragged out of them by wild rampaging horses on LSD. I mean, sure, they might think stuff, but please tell me that the key word is grudgingly. And it'd be more like, 'I have to admit Potter/Malfoy can fly well or has an interesting jawline' than *cue fluttering eyelashes* 'He's stho cute! Eleventy-one'.

*is weak*

...'cute' is so catch-all and generic. True, often the ship is catch-all and generic and freakin' leather-obsessed - but it has its moments of such brilliance; why do people insist on continually tarnishing that?

CUTE. JUST SAY NO.
 
 
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Current Music: 'Easy Target', Blink 182
 
 
 
Katkyasuriin on March 21st, 2005 03:12 pm (UTC)

lol @ your mood. are you really distressed? aww, hun.. *pets* there, all better. *points to R/S* there we go..
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: H/Dscoradh on March 21st, 2005 03:18 pm (UTC)
I do get distressed at the cupidity of mankind in general and H/D shippers in general...

Ahaha. But we cannot help our OTPs...xD
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gabbysun on March 21st, 2005 03:28 pm (UTC)
*pinches cheek*

Aww, you're so cute when you get ticked off.
every Starbucks should have a polar bearscoradh on March 21st, 2005 04:06 pm (UTC)
*splutters incoherently*

Hang on, I seem to recall that a lot of people call me cute. IT IS VERY ODD, ALSO DISTURBING.

I like your icon.
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kabeyk on March 21st, 2005 03:30 pm (UTC)
H/D can rock, but there's just too many fangirls squeeing over movie-canon (or rather, shit I can't remember their names, thingy and whatsit, Dan and Tom, phew) that spoil it for the rest of us.

I only use the word cute when I'm being patronising or describing rabbits or babies. (What's the difference when you really get down to it?)

And 'wangstiest' should also make the OED!11!1

Sorry, eleventy-one always makes me laugh. My icon is dedicated to the fangirls.

kx
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Suesscoradh on March 21st, 2005 04:08 pm (UTC)
Yeah, that's what I mean - for some reason I ventured onto their turf last night (because it is morning now, eep). I am now back safe with Eclipse!

There is none. I can only squee at babies if I'm ironic about it; they are just essentially tubes, aren't they?

WANGST! AND FLANGST! Yay!

The fangurls have much to teach. *nods solemnly*
someone's always looking for DB Cooper: sun by akaii_hananumena on March 21st, 2005 03:40 pm (UTC)
"CUTE. JUST SAY NO."

*dies laughing* Gah, it's just so true!

every Starbucks should have a polar bearscoradh on March 21st, 2005 04:09 pm (UTC)
I should make...wait for it...T-SHIRTS! *beams*

To suffocate authors with.
Insufferable, man.: slytherincynicalpirate on March 21st, 2005 04:02 pm (UTC)
Your moodtheme rocks. It's very cute.

Also, I always thought I resembled a rodent, but I believe the animal in question was a FERRET.

True, often the ship is catch-all and generic and freakin' leather-obsessed

*whines softly*
every Starbucks should have a polar bearscoradh on March 21st, 2005 04:10 pm (UTC)
Like I said, I used brush my hair wiva fork. For serious.

I'm sure there's a phrase saying 'rat-like face'. Still, rodents is rodents, or so my mother would have me believe (mind you, guinea pigs are cute...dammit, you broke my logic!).

Look, leather is just not practical. Let's go for faux fur.
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CUTE?! - scoradh on March 21st, 2005 04:18 pm (UTC) (Expand)
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starts with k: The Kissanyotherknight on March 21st, 2005 04:03 pm (UTC)
Another who shares your plight
I agree. First off, cute is way over-used; not only that, people don't even get the meaning. It's like "pretty" or even worse, the adjective of doom: COY! Coy is annoying pseudo-innocence, coy is a tease. Cute is infantile and uninspired; it's village idiot beauty.

Especially when you consider the fact that these characters are anything but cute. They don't have to be ugly (Draco does not resemble a rat kthxbai), but a good writer will work to establish an alluring image in their character's form; certain imperfections that destroy any semblance of cute. I remember shouting "kudos" when you gave Draco blackheads in A City Visible.

'cute' applies to four things: kittens, puppies, babies and teddy-bears But the teddies wear out (heh, pun), the kittens shed, the puppies get kicked and the babies shit on everything and yowl at ungodly hours.

Heh, the eleventy-one always makes me think of Bilbo, which is funny because he got on a soapbox and insulted his family at his birthday party and we're insulting psedo-shippers -- yeah, that's one hell of a tangent.
every Starbucks should have a polar bearscoradh on March 21st, 2005 04:14 pm (UTC)
Re: Another who shares your plight
I don't mind describing people as pretty, so long as it's used somewhat ironically. Urf, cute just gets my goat like no other though.

I'm sure I read a rat analogy in canon! I'd swear! *frowns* I'm going to go through the books with my fine-tooth comb tomorrow. Ha! I was frowning for a second going 'who gave him blackheads?' I'm so stupid at times. My first beta wanted me to take it out but I STOOD FIRM, I DID.

Apperances - shallow things, much like the bloody word. xD

They aren't psuedo-shippers, they do ship something; it's just not with any recognisable canon characters. Tangents are massively fun though!
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Jax: lupin is ready severusimadra_blue on March 21st, 2005 07:27 pm (UTC)
Ahahahaha! *wipes tears from eyes* While a certain body part might get the label "cute" (because I firmly believe Draco has a cute arse XD), I agree the amount of cuteness and fluffy in this wangsty ship of ours is astounding.

What's worse is Snupin fluff. *runs after fangirls with sharp, pointy objects*
every Starbucks should have a polar bearscoradh on March 22nd, 2005 12:16 pm (UTC)
I agree (albeit somewhat grudgingly) that you could call his arse cute. But not all of him, and not in place of ANY OTHER adjective. So many words out there, why must they harp on this one!

*is weak* Is it actually possible to fluff that ship? Please say it ain't so.
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Caitcoralia13 on March 21st, 2005 09:37 pm (UTC)
Hahahaha. As someone who, almost nightly, feints onto her bed and moans to her friends, "He's sooooooo cute!!! Why is he SO fucking cute?!" I cannot say anything other than the fact that HARRY and DRACO would NEVER use such a word to describe one another.
every Starbucks should have a polar bearscoradh on March 22nd, 2005 12:13 pm (UTC)
I cannot say anything other than the fact that HARRY and DRACO would NEVER use such a word to describe one another.

YES! YES! A BAZILLION TIMES YES!

But Joe is...*grits teeth* cute. Although we could probably go for fine, I reckon. xD
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bat crime: but evil is redeemableiceetoile on March 22nd, 2005 12:26 am (UTC)
See, this is what I love about you. Your amazing capacity for anger.

H/D is my OTP too, as you know, and I can't take cute fluff with my ship. It's angsty, it's dark, it's not easy. It's never dancing through fields hand in hand with adorable muggle children with freckles and button nose and pigtails. Cute fluff works for, say, MWPP-era Sirius/Remus. But both of my beloved ships are fairly fluff-resistant; Severus/Remus repels 'cuteness' on the grounds that Snape is never going to be cute. He's snarky and difficult and a bit too proud for his own good, like an less childish and more permanantly-pissed-off Draco.

And redeemed!Draco - don't make me laugh. Nobody is that black and white, even in canon, where the lines are drawn pretty thick. Draco and Severus are never going to be kind to bunnies and flowers, or cry on Hufflepuff's shoulders about their lost love and how it's - all - their - fault.

See, I too am violent when I'm roused. I should look into that.
every Starbucks should have a polar bearscoradh on March 22nd, 2005 12:15 pm (UTC)
Yes, Snape/Lupin is rather like GrownUp!H/D, except that Harry would never be as mature and restrained as Lupin. (That's why I prefer H/D.)

Obviously I have been guilty of fluff, but I try my best not to make it cute, and to make them snark at each other. Easy enough, as that's all I've ever done with Real!Boys.

Yes, Snape is the prime example - not a follower of Voldemort, but not a nice guy either. On one thing, old Sirius was right - the world isn't split into good people and Death Eaters.

We all are, niente?
Minnow: Cinderella: tmminnow_53 on March 22nd, 2005 01:38 am (UTC)
Interesting. I never used the word 'cute' in my life, because it's an American word, until I joined the HP fandom. Now, I'm always describing things as 'cute'. You have made me rethink this, and I shall try and curb the habit at once.

D'you like the clean c word icon, btw?

^_^
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Bellescoradh on March 22nd, 2005 12:12 pm (UTC)
Good girl. You are NICE, unlike everyone else, who promptly stared teasing me with The Word. *glares*

I love all Disney icons! I am a closet Disney whore (see moodtheme!).
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henbock on March 22nd, 2005 09:06 am (UTC)
That was so cute!
I understand your annoyance but I wouldnt get so worked up as you about it. I feel that we dont talk so much any more and I feel the need to ring you over the weekend so I advise you to wait by the fone! Our bus got itts windows smashed in Belfast because of the southern reg and we stayed in one of the most loyalist areas! There were union jacks everywhere and the pavement was painted red, blue and white! The house next to the hotel hgad a huge mural that said You are now entering the heartland of loyalist belfast, Sandyrow. I actually felt so angry sbout it and I hated it when we drove past Harland and Wolf! I can safely say the only thing that that I liked was the cheaper booze!
every Starbucks should have a polar bearscoradh on March 22nd, 2005 12:11 pm (UTC)
Re: That was so cute!
YOU CRAZY HO YOU ACTUALLY WENT TO BELFAST!?!?!?!?

The reason we don't talk is because WE DON'T TALK...But yes, call me - actually, I'm off from Thursday! Call! Call!