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13 September 2005 @ 08:56 pm
There's a first time for everything. Even anvils.  
This was inspired by a day of cooking the books, reading aloud to myself in a (vain) attempt to get something about thoracic apertures, pseudostratified ciliated columnar epitheliums and the equations behind water ionization into my sadly unsponge-like brain. I was reading about the breasts today, in anatomy terms, as they're classified under the thoracic region and not the reproductive. (A note: When your doctor has to give you a full body examination or something else potentially embarrassing ... don't think that, just because they've finally grown mature enough not to go red and burst out laughing followed by hiding in a corner, doesn't mean they don't want to. A lot.)

There was two pictures, with little arrows for classification terms, of male and female chests. Not as burst-a-blood-vessel-blush-worthy as the longitudinal section of a penis, but it got me thinking. I've had a couple of MTV based discussions on the merits of male v. female bodies; quite a few of my straight female friends think that girl's bodies are nicer, prettier, more attractive et al. I was in a minority in thinking boys' are more interesting, with all those dips and shadows and muscles and whatnot. Mmm, digitations of the serratus anterior. Yum. And, since I've never done a poll before, I thought I'd bore you with all this superfluous information before using this as a basis for one.

Poll #569903 The Bod-eh (a la Mr Bean's art teacher)

Which do you find more aesthetically (NOT sexually) pleasing, male or female bodies?

Both, in combination

I'm definitely an Ancient Greek, I think.
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ickle sexual tyrant: sex is naturalanjenue on September 13th, 2005 01:08 pm (UTC)
I think girls are prettier overall -- curves are beautiful, I think. But I DO adore looking at a man's back especially, and his chest is a close second.
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Hermione and Zachariasscoradh on September 15th, 2005 11:32 am (UTC)
*squints* Is that a body stocking in your icon? Random ... ;)

I actually hate curves, my own or anybody else's. Social and familial conditioning, I think you'd call it. I know you're not supposed to find anorexic models actually attractive, but I do. Because I am a ho, really.

Male hips PWN. That is all.

not your typical annihilatrixfuriosity on September 13th, 2005 01:22 pm (UTC)
Rach, you should know better than to let me near the ticky boxes. >.>

But in this case, I meant to tick them all - I find living things aesthetically pleasing, just in general. Even anteaters.
The Eminent Sage and Junkietheladyfeylene on September 13th, 2005 01:31 pm (UTC)
Anteaters are beautiful creatures. And that wasn't sarcasm. :D
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Kittenscoradh on September 15th, 2005 11:49 am (UTC)
I prefer cats, but whatever bloats your stoat, mate.
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Luna can you see them?scoradh on September 15th, 2005 11:21 am (UTC)
One day, ticky boxes will be a hot topic with therapists, I reckon. :D

Really? I mean, everything? Me, I hate, like, messy looking trees and stuff. I'm all for landscaping and architecture. And I think all crocodiles should be taken out and shot. *shudders*
high and mighty mansplaining robot: noble collarbonesrimestock on September 13th, 2005 02:17 pm (UTC)
I agree with you, apparently.

I mean... okay, women are pretty, sure, but men? are fascinating. And. And hipbones. And collarbones. And.


... also shoulderblades.

They're prettier on men than they are on women, dammit.
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Bitter endscoradh on September 15th, 2005 11:19 am (UTC)
Women are winning, but yes. Men's hipbones beat all out. *drools*
high and mighty mansplaining robotrimestock on September 15th, 2005 11:33 am (UTC)
See... what people don't realize? Or don't seem to, anyway?

Is that women are supposed to be curvy, right? That's what they're meant for.

Which means that when a woman is skinny enough that you can see her hipbones/shoulderblades/collarbones to quite such an extent, it is not pretty.

But the thing, right, is that I'm female, and all, so. I have curves, if I want to look at curves.

I do not, however, have Sexy Manly Hipbones.

(Which is okay. Because I don't want them. Not on me. Just on other people. Specifically, men.)
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Harry kissscoradh on September 15th, 2005 11:45 am (UTC)
I have to disagree with you there -- not because I want to, but my upbringing has been such that I've been conditioned to think that any spare flesh is ugly. My mother's bulimic, see, not that my dad isn't also to blame. I never get tired of hearing "What tastes on the lips rests on the hips!" Like hell.

It would be nice if everyone was the same, I think. Then there wouldn't be this awful comparision. But yes, male hipbones are love.
high and mighty mansplaining robot: boys - kiss - b&wrimestock on September 15th, 2005 11:55 am (UTC)
... *hugs you*

The female form I find most aesthetically pleasing is slender but curvy. *shrugs*

Just... I'd rather look at pretty men. :D

Also, if everyone were the same, then there wouldn't be these interesting conversations, either.
every Starbucks should have a polar bearscoradh on September 16th, 2005 02:46 pm (UTC)
My ideal is Misha Barton. xD

Yes. So much more interesting than what you've already got, eh?

This ees true.
The Goddamn Wolf Womanslythwolf on September 13th, 2005 02:52 pm (UTC)
Ticky boxes!
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Hufflepuffsscoradh on September 15th, 2005 11:35 am (UTC)
wOOt, right?
The Goddamn Wolf Womanslythwolf on September 16th, 2005 09:38 am (UTC)
Ticca: Misc: Lamp postdaniellafromage on September 13th, 2005 03:02 pm (UTC)
I thought about this for a while - probably, uh, longer than you intended - and I've come to the conclusion that I simply don't know. So I didn't vote.

every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Jesus the Puffscoradh on September 15th, 2005 11:54 am (UTC)
No, I reckon all the people who voted "horse" must have put some thought into it. Anyway, you're young, this means you have all of them to choose from! (Except, possibly, horses.)
Lord Marmaduke Newbrycatsmeat on September 13th, 2005 04:05 pm (UTC)
you change your layout/layout colour more than i wash.

And depending on the body, my opinions change. If it's a guys body, and he is nicely muscled (By not overly, i mean not to a strange degree. Say where there are definate shadows on sunny days) then I might, might think he's gotta nicer body than megan.

But his hips would have to be to die for.
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Caesarscoradh on September 15th, 2005 10:50 am (UTC)
I'm far too easily amused. It's a thing.

Say where there are definate shadows on sunny days is a damn fine way of putting it. Bodybuilders are fugly, man. I must steal that line ... I MEAN WOT?

If they work it, men have the best hips ever. Women sort of flare. It's terrible, particularly in terms of jeans-purchasing. However, you sort of adapt all these opinions when you find the person you want to fit them to, right? (What does it say about me that the latest love of my life was anorexic, I wonder ...?)
Lord Marmaduke Newbrycatsmeat on September 15th, 2005 04:23 pm (UTC)
Good thing you're friends with me, my humour is weird at best, and just not funny at worst (That looks wrong to me, but then it's midnight, and i've been at work for seven hours.)

Steal away, midglet! I am free and easy with my affections.

As for jeans, buy mens ones, they usually kick arse. And I kind of like womens hips. I like the way my hand fits into the hollow next to megans hip-bones..
(and it shows you have weird taste?)

every Starbucks should have a polar bearscoradh on September 16th, 2005 02:14 pm (UTC)
I think that describes most people's senses of humour, wot? Anyway, a sense of the ridiculous is far to be preferred, 'cause then you can laugh at yourself too. *smug*

Yeah, I got that. And done. Needed it for Sirius/James angstfic.

I totally would, only Ireland is a small place and it would get around and then I'd get funny looks in Gasoline ...
(It shows I have terrible taste, considering he was a bastard with it and used to put his hair in dyed-red and green horns. Mmm.)
Lord Marmaduke Newbrycatsmeat on September 18th, 2005 06:40 pm (UTC)
A sense of the ridiculous! Talk about hitting the nail on the head!

Oh god. Do I want linking?

And you'd be suprised at how many women do wear them.
(What the hell? Green homs?)
every Starbucks should have a polar bearscoradh on September 19th, 2005 12:15 pm (UTC)
Dude, I always hit my thumb.

I haven't finished it yet. There is some pornish S/J at rainspots ... but, judging by your icon, that wouldn't be your style of thing at all.

Nah, I'll stay shelling out eighty quid on girl ones that fit.
(HORNS. You know ... gelled ones?)
Lord Marmaduke Newbrycatsmeat on September 20th, 2005 05:33 pm (UTC)
I've had a stupid day. Stupid, stupid, stupid!

Me? Porn? You? Writing it? Never!

every Starbucks should have a polar bearscoradh on September 21st, 2005 12:44 pm (UTC)
Welcome to my life, mate.

I came as close as I come to it, believe me.
Lord Marmaduke Newbrycatsmeat on September 22nd, 2005 05:32 am (UTC)
So you didn't use the phrase 'throbbing mancock' (Although that brings up the possibility of other types of cock.) at all? That surely a prerequisite of pornography in the written form.
every Starbucks should have a polar bearscoradh on September 23rd, 2005 06:41 am (UTC)
Like bullcock? Lovely. Beastiality. You may in fact be correct, but I don't strictly write porn so much as erotica.

Do not ask me the difference between them ...
Lord Marmaduke Newbrycatsmeat on September 23rd, 2005 07:40 pm (UTC)
Erotica = girlporn.
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Crumbcakescoradh on September 24th, 2005 12:06 pm (UTC)
HAHAHAHA. *dies laughing* AHAHAHA.

Need icon.
Lord Marmaduke Newbrycatsmeat on September 24th, 2005 02:53 pm (UTC)
It's true, goddammit!
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Icescoradh on September 25th, 2005 03:47 am (UTC)
But do you mean erotica = porn by girls for girls, or erotica = porn about girls? The former's true. I would argue with the latter most vehemently.
Lord Marmaduke Newbrycatsmeat on September 25th, 2005 01:51 pm (UTC)
The latter? Definately not.
every Starbucks should have a polar bearscoradh on September 27th, 2005 12:08 pm (UTC)
Yeah, femmeslash holds no interest for me.
Lord Marmaduke Newbrycatsmeat on September 28th, 2005 02:17 am (UTC)
Or, probably, anyone apart from deluded lesbians?
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: fashion -- flamesscoradh on September 29th, 2005 09:13 am (UTC)
And the average male. Or at least, any I've talked to.
Lord Marmaduke Newbrycatsmeat on September 30th, 2005 04:24 am (UTC)
Sorry, but lesbian porn just isn't that good. There's no cock.
amazing vaguely humanoid armadillopersoncryptid on September 13th, 2005 10:54 pm (UTC)
See, I think both can be equally pretty, but I find there's a wider variety of things I find pretty on girls. They can be skinny, chubby, hourglass shaped, androgynously flat, wiry/slightly muscular -- different things look good on different people, but girls can look real good almost every way, as long as they're not unhealthily obese, starvation-thin or body-builders. :P But boys need to be thin in order for me to be interested. Skinny is good, lean/wiry even better, slight muscle definition can look fine, but they do need to be thin. It's not fair, I know, but that's how I feel. Women gain weight in interesting ways, but men just kinda bloat. Also, I always think that muscles look best in moderation, and think body-builders look quite creepy, but somehow it's even worse with men.

Gee, I sound sort of horrid, don't I. Well, yanno, this is merely in regards to how aesthetically appealing I find people to be, nothing else... the most important question is still 'Is their brain Shiny?'. 'Cause, man, stupidity isn't pretty at all. XP

every Starbucks should have a polar bearscoradh on September 15th, 2005 11:59 am (UTC)
I keep saying this, but I've been conditioned to think like you: People are just better looking when they're thin, and the thinner the better. It's not just magazines, it's my family and my own opinion as well. Plus, it's all well and good to say that "My body is curvy/overweight and that's okay" but that means that if your mate is curvy/overweight etc (and like you said, men don't put it on well), then you have to put up with it! Hoist by your own petard!

True. But sometimes I think it would be such a nice, quiet relief to be stupid. There seems to be so many more stupid people about than otherwise.
Caitcoralia13 on September 14th, 2005 01:02 pm (UTC)
An interesting question. I have had the same debate before with a mixed-gender group of friends, all of them, to the best of my knowledge, straight, and all agreed that the female body is more aesthetically pleasing, except one of the guys, who agreed with you, except not in as many words.
I was sorely tempted by the "horses" option.
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Harry lightsscoradh on September 15th, 2005 10:44 am (UTC)
Mmm. I wonder what it is about the female body? Perhaps because more of it was and is still hidden from the majority of public view, so you have the naughty factor or something ... anyway, women were definitely winning when last I checked. Horses got a lot of votes too ...

I only put that in because of a line I read in a book called Kiss Chase, which I thought was terrifically funny: Piers had changed Topaz's walker to a thick ex-Guards officer who fancied horses more than humans. Topaz, however, fancied Felix more than horses, other humans and, for a short while, her husband.

Caitcoralia13 on September 16th, 2005 04:33 pm (UTC)
That is a ridiculously great line! I love it!