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25 August 2007 @ 09:16 pm
and flying cots in the nurseries!  
Today, for the first time, I watched a Star Wars movie (A New Hope, to be precise). Now, my parents are hard-working, clean-leaving people who have no hobbies whatsoever – and when you think about it, the only difference between a hobby and a vice is the spelling. If they’d had passion for, well, anything, I’d be right there behind them because I do sort of throw myself into things head-first, which is a prime recipe for belly-flopping if ever there was one. As it is, I have to muddle my way through obsessions without quite knowing where I should go next. Everyone seems to have seen Star Wars because their parents did, in the same way everyone seems to have read Lord of the Rings – except for the people who don’t read or watch properly, the ones who put Jordan and Cecilia Ahern and Are We There Yet? at the top of bestseller lists. My next ambition is towards Star Trek, although I have no idea to begin – what on earth did Trekkies do before the internet and box sets? Was it something you had to be born into?

Anyway, I’ve seen a lot of sci-fi stuff lately (BSG, SGA ♥, SG-1 and now SW) and one thing that strikes me quite hard is the space-ship design. You would never have guessed that the Millennium Falcon and the Daedalus were conceived in different centuries, so alike do they look. All spaceships seem to have a depressing, utilitarian uniformity to them. I’m not asking for there to be pink spaceships (okay actually, I am), but are a few racing stripes – gold-tipped wings, maybe – too much to ask? If a society is advanced enough to break into hyper-space, it’s conceivable that interior design for comfort and aesthetics rather than practicality wouldn’t be far behind. Puddlejumpers? Laura Ashley’d be all over it.

And don’t get me started on how hyper-space looks the same everywhere. No one’s been there, I’m not sure it technically exists, so why all the blue screensavers? I saw a film once – animated, Earth destroyed, blonde guy with key to secret planet-creator-thing, calls it Bob – where these blue spirit kangaroos flew alongside ships in hyper-space (at least I think it was hyper-space – I mean, I can’t even remember the name of the film, I could be wrong). Now that was cool. Next I want some chrome and glass and William Morris upholstery inside the damn ships.

I think there's a niche - or nitch, as Americans say (and sharpies are biros!) - in the market for a SF story about interior designers for spaceships who like come across some Evil Data sewn into the hideous curtains. Or something.

ps Harrison Ford was hot when he was younger.
 
 
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sapphiretragedy: puddlejumpersapphiretragedy on August 25th, 2007 08:25 pm (UTC)
*delurks*

You would never have guessed that the Millennium Falcon and the Daedalus were conceived in different centuries, so alike do they look. All spaceships seem to have a depressing, utilitarian uniformity to them.

And don't forget the unmistakable phallic shape they all seem to take on. There's a trope that never gets old. ;)
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Kitties: hammockscoradh on August 26th, 2007 06:30 pm (UTC)
Once you'd said that I couldn't stop noticing it. OMG. See, this is where my interior designers could come in - starships in the shape of actual penises, for the discerning customer.

What does trope mean in this context? (As in, not a cell-type context.)
(no subject) - sapphiretragedy on August 26th, 2007 10:02 pm (UTC) (Expand)
hikaridonya on August 25th, 2007 08:27 pm (UTC)
ps Harrison Ford was hot when he was younger.

Yes. Yes he was. Han Solo... such a scoundrel *____*

I love Star Wars.
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Black Booksscoradh on August 26th, 2007 06:31 pm (UTC)
He reminds me so much of Mal from Firefly ... only less of a badass.
mrsquizzical: dontgetanyideasbonoewanmrsquizzical on August 25th, 2007 08:44 pm (UTC)
oh man. that's the best thing i've read in a millenia!

fantastic.

so true. from the 'what do i do if my parents didn't like this stuff so i never saw it?' to 'i want william morris upholstery inside the damn ships'.

*wipes tear*

can i just saw "word"?

and yeah - harrison ford was delicious! before he went all publicity shy and his face became so withdrawn.
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Entourage: star flowersscoradh on August 26th, 2007 06:33 pm (UTC)
Was it Harrison Ford who was in Indiana Jones or was it the other guy who now directs hardcore war movies? I always get those two mixed up.

Always glad to amuse! Who's that with Bono in your icon?
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grey_hunter on August 25th, 2007 08:45 pm (UTC)
I’m not asking for there to be pink spaceships (okay actually, I am), but are a few racing stripes – gold-tipped wings, maybe – too much to ask?

LOL watch anime. There you can have all the pinkness you can bear. (And girls with boobs the size of their heads *cough*)

And don’t get me started on how hyper-space looks the same everywhere.

ooooh! Then the next project for you should be to watch SPACEBALLS. (After you've seen Star Wars, it's only fair. Btw, how did you like Star Wars? Don't watch Star Wars Holiday Special if you don't want to die of laughing at the overwhelming lameness of it.)

Star Trek: I started with Next Generation - because that was running in the TV at the time. I love DS9 the best. Voyager isn't bad either and the original series is good if you want to get nostalgic about sci-fi. There is a last spin off which is called Star Trek Enterprise(?). It is set earlier than any other of the series but it didn't really grab my attention. Um... don't watch the movies except if you want to get mush and clichés. But if you can find the internet comic 'Sev Trek' then I recommend that because that has the funny side of the clichés down to a spot.

ps. can't remember that film's title either but yeah, it was a cool film (that's why I started liking the name Bob).

Oh and I don't know if it qualifies as chrome if it's all black-and-white
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Death of Ratsscoradh on August 26th, 2007 06:38 pm (UTC)
The only anime I watch is like, Peach Girl, Death Note and PoT. Considerable paucity of starships, pink or otherwise, in those.

I thought Star Wars IV and V were ... boring, to say the least. Like an over-extended ep of SGA. But that's because I've seen too much better stuff, and stuff that rips it off, and because I'm not a kid.

I'll see about finding all or any of those.

The name's too complicated or something! It should have a better name. *pouts*
Eli/Ellie/ellie_nor: Pansyellie_nor on August 25th, 2007 09:06 pm (UTC)
SF story about interior designers for spaceships

OMG yes! I wish I knew enough about interior design to write that!
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Cooler than youscoradh on August 26th, 2007 06:40 pm (UTC)
Sure you could make it up, it's not like it would have the same rules as a house ... probably.
miss j. ☆ミ: sw // luke // in the rainreceipt on August 26th, 2007 12:08 am (UTC)
DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN DUN!!!!!!!!!!!! DUN DUN DUN DUUUUUUUUN DUN DADADADAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!

I LOVE STAR WARS


last night i was trying to cheer up my friend by being geeky about sw. i will copy and paste.

me: i mean telling you stuff like the duel between anakin and obi-wan is the longest in sw history at a length of 12 minutes may cheer you up with my geekiness.
- the fight was also only the second time the same colored lightsabers fought each other
-coruscant is actually supposed to be pronounced with a hard c
-there's a capital city named balderdash
-mace windu's lightsaber is only purple cause sammy jack wanted it that way ("THERE'S MOTHERFUCKIN PURPLE IN THIS MOTHERFUCKIN LIGHTSABER. BASIC, MOTHERFUCKER, DO YOU SPAEK IT?!")
-gary oldman was supposed to voice
miss j. ☆ミreceipt on August 26th, 2007 12:11 am (UTC)
wtf, lj cut off my comment.

-gary oldman was supposed to voice general grevious
- (following all about rotj) words ewok, palpatine and sith lord aren't mentioned in the movie
it is the only sw movie to not eature a blue vs red lightsaber fight
and is the only movie featuring a green saber where the green doesn't lose the the red
only film where a sith is shown holding a green light saber
on the promo posters luke was seen with a blue lightsaber but his was actually green


okay, i have proven my geekery. oh, my life. also, i say niche!
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Sereniaserenia on August 26th, 2007 12:46 am (UTC)
I was a Trekkie from the ages of 7 to about 15. It's all The Next Generation's fault! When that first started on TV, it was at a reasonable time for kids to watch, so I sat with my family and watched it, and was hooked.
About 3 years later, the fanfic started. :P
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Bellescoradh on August 26th, 2007 06:42 pm (UTC)
See, this stuff never seems to be on TV when I'm around to watch it. Oh how that sucks. *pout*
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every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Blue haired boy w/ phonescoradh on August 26th, 2007 06:43 pm (UTC)
Er, they might well be. I just tried to extrapolate from the context ... I've learned so much American culture from fanfic, lol.

Oh yes.

Hi! :D
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every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Candy lipsscoradh on August 26th, 2007 06:45 pm (UTC)
God, non-fiction. I tried reading a biography of Marie Antoinette once but gave up because I knew the ending. >.>

See, if I'd encountered SW earlier, I might have liked it. As it is I find it boring and keep wondering when Leia gets time to put on all that pink eyeshadow.
nishatalitha: Eagle Nebulanishatalitha on August 26th, 2007 04:06 am (UTC)
If you watch Babylon 5, I think some of their spaceships don't look all the same, especially the Minbari ones, which kinda look like fish.
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Firefly: Kaylee w/ parasolscoradh on August 26th, 2007 06:46 pm (UTC)
Oh, Babylon 5. *snaps fingers* That and Red Dwarf, both on my to-watch list.
Racey Lacey: Red pointeklasie on August 26th, 2007 05:28 am (UTC)
I have always loved Star Wars, but am definitely a Trekkie at heart. My dad watched the original as a kid, and my sister loved TNG, which is what was on when I was little, so I'd reccomend starting with that, but Voyager is also excellent, and the original series has merit. I personally really really hated DS9, but you may like it, it has a lot of die-hard fans.

Babylon 5 was good too, for the record.

p.s. Young Harrison Ford was like.....god.
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Atobe: So awesomescoradh on August 26th, 2007 06:47 pm (UTC)
So does it matter where you start? If I watch a newer one will I get spoiled for the older ones?

That's on my list too.

Also like Mal ... which is pretty much the same thing. :D
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every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Inui: Earphonesscoradh on August 26th, 2007 06:47 pm (UTC)
Sorry! I just ... was born after they were made, I can't help it. :D
ou_peachusou_peachus on August 26th, 2007 04:16 pm (UTC)
Try Star Wars episode I: The Phantom Menace.

I'm a huge fan of the original 3, and not so much of the new trilogy. However, they were amazing visually. They have lots of delicate designs and some with color and such on them.
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Comic stripscoradh on August 27th, 2007 11:57 am (UTC)
I think I saw some of that on TV. All I remember is Padme's tribal makeup though >.>

Jax: obi-wan anakin my brotherimadra_blue on August 26th, 2007 11:11 pm (UTC)
!!! You saw Star Wars. :D

Actually, Star Wars is the reason for a lot of sci fi tropes in things like SGA, BSG, and the lot. SW is one of the single most influential sci fi/fantasy films of all time. Which is why you see a lot of spceships that look like SW's ships or the blue hyperspace thing. SW's elements have filtered into the cultual consciousness so thoroughly that people have a hard time seeing it any other way now.

Although, in the prequel SW films (Episodes I-III), there is a lot more variety in spaceship design and color. Don't recall pink, but there's other colors, like red and yellow and whatnot. The reason the original trilogy (Episodes IV-VI) is so uniform is that it's a universe that has had twenty years of severe oppression from a despostic tyranny. There's not a lot of creativity, just desperation to create utilaterian ships that go fast. The original trilogy is very dystopian in nature. The prequels are shinier and prettier. And they do have Ewan McGregor. *tempts* I tend to prefer the original trilogy, and but the entire saga is enjoyable. Then again, I'm biased. I lvoe Star Wars to the core of my little soul. XD
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Bellescoradh on August 27th, 2007 12:00 pm (UTC)
Ahhhh. Much has now become clear, young Skywalker.

See, I didn't pick up on the fact that it was a dystopia. All I read was 'the evil Empire' in the beginning of the slidey words and immediately thought 'why evil?' I gather that the Why part is covered in the new trilogy, but back in 1977 there was no new trilogy ... but I suppose random evil was more easily swallowed back then? Anyway, I've grown up thinking men in black masks are evil, but I was still a bit sceptical of why the Empire is so evil. 'Rebel' doesn't equal 'good guy' in my book (or the books of people from like Sierra Leone, I imagine).

I wish I'd watched it first when I was younger and more credulous. :(
fat girl rules the worldfatgirlrules on August 27th, 2007 01:33 am (UTC)
The movie that you're thinking of is the very awesome 'Titan AE'. And there are spirit whales in hyper-space, not kangaroos. The kangaroo is the tactical officer aboard Whoever-Bill-Pullman's-Character-Is's ship. I love that movie. Now I want to watch it. We are not calling the planet 'Bob'. Muwahahahaha!

I got into a lot of my favorite sci-fi shows due to reruns on the SciFi channel as a teenager, although I was exposed to Star Trek: The Next Generation at a young age.
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Blue haired boy w/ phonescoradh on August 27th, 2007 11:55 am (UTC)
THAT'S THE ONE! Man I loved that film. They were very skinny for whales, though, I thought? Whatever. Now I want to see it too, dammit. >.>

Lucky you! I have no Sky, no SciFi channel, no nothing. *cries*