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23 January 2008 @ 07:43 pm
depending on the severity of the blood, there may be shock...  
I can’t believe Heath Ledger died! I used to want to marry him!

By a strange co-incidence, I saw an attempted suicide in A&E this morning. The health system being what it is, he was brusquely questioned by the consultant as to what he took, if it was with alcohol, and if he intended to kill himself, all on a trolley in a corridor surrounded by three other doctors, three students and a nurse. Oh, and whoever else was passing by.

Everyone rhapsodises about how god-like and amazing my consultant is, but I reckon that behaviour is worthy of criticism. Personally.

I put up six IVs today – including one on the wards, when the man I was taking a history from needed his changed – so the good thing happened! (So far as I know none of them are dead from it. That’s very good.)

I emailed the mods re: Big Bang, but no word as yet.
Current Mood: productiveproductive
Current Music: imagine me and you (?)
sleepingfingers on January 23rd, 2008 08:25 pm (UTC)
I feel rather bad for him, attempted suicide or no. And I do hope that the mods will let you submit your Big Bang fic! If it's your best work yet, it really must be awesome beyond words.
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: SGA: purple squaresscoradh on January 26th, 2008 04:23 pm (UTC)
I hope so too! It's still under consideration.

I got an awful shock when that news broke, although I'm still not sure why.
daybreaqdaybreaq on January 24th, 2008 12:26 am (UTC)
What's kinda terrible about Heath Ledger's death is the way the media reported it. A lot of rumors got reported as fact that were later found to be false.

The latest article I read is he was found in bed, *under the covers* and face down. It was also reported his perscription meds were nearby but not scattered around him.

Other articles I've seen state the prescriptions were Ambien, Xanax and Valium.
I've also seen mentions that he may have had pneumonia.

My speculation is it will turn out not to be any sort of suicide attempt or drug abuse. I suspect what might have happened is he was very congested. And that he was taking his prescription meds as directed and maybe took some over the counter cold and flu medication as well. And then he went to bed ... and fell asleep on his stomach while congested and suffered apnea in his sleep.
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Kitties: in ur quantum box... maybescoradh on January 26th, 2008 04:24 pm (UTC)
I think I'd nearly find death by apnoea more tragic than a suicide. At least a suicide would show some desire for death, a desire that was fulfilled. An accidental death would be even more a tragic waste.
daybreaqdaybreaq on January 26th, 2008 07:23 pm (UTC)
Oh, I agree. It just seems there's this desire by the media to go for a more ... dramatic story. Maybe it's just because it's what is expected when it was someone in the entertainment industry. Or maybe people don't want to believe a man in his twenties can die so ... well ... easily ... particularly if it's the type of accident that can happen to anyone. I'm seeing a lot of clues on later articles: the fact the family has so confidently declared it was an accident causes me to speculate that doctors have already explained to them the likely scenario and are just waiting for autopsy confirmation that there are no other factors. There also is the continued reporting of him having some sort of respiratory infection. Plus there are little clues like the houskeeper stating she heard him "snoring" about an hour before they tried to wake him.

There seems to be a desire to believe he somehow abused his prescriptions or he was overmedicated by his doctors. With the reporting that he had a respiratory infection, I'm not sure that's the case. There are warnings about OTC meds in the inserts on these prescriptions; but does everyone read them or remember them the day they decide to take something to relieve that cough or stuffy nose? It seems quite possible to me that he could have taken an OTC cold med on top of his prescriptions. Even if he didn't, could ... say ... an Ambien and a Valium suppress the cough reflex enough that a mucous obstruction wouldn't trigger it while sleeping? I don't know; but it seems possible to me. I'm a dentist and we sometimes use sedatives; but one of our rules is never to sedate a patient who is congested. As far as I know though, there are no warnings about congestion for people who regularly take sleep aids and/or sedatives at home.
Sereniaserenia on January 24th, 2008 12:42 am (UTC)
I can understand how emergency doctors and nurses might have little patience for people who try to kill themselves, since they spend so much time trying to save people's lives - to see someone try to throw theirs away, and to have to work to save them when there's a possibility that they might do it again must be frustrating. I've attempted suicide 3 times, by ODing on my antidepressants. Not a good way to go.
I also got put out in the corridor on one occasion, but that was after drinking the charcoal *shudder* and having the blood tests, while waiting for a psychiatrist to show up.
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: SGA: pretty cityscoradh on January 26th, 2008 04:28 pm (UTC)
to see someone try to throw theirs away, and to have to work to save them when there's a possibility that they might do it again must be frustrating.

Personally? Not so frustrating as diabetics who are non-compliant with their insulin. Not as frustrating as cardiac failure patients who continue to smoke. Not so frustrating as alcoholics clogging up the A&E because they fell down drunk.

I have huge sympathy with depression, as a fellow/former sufferer myself. It's bloody hard to treat - it's not like you can inject yourself with happy drugs, or stop doing something that's obviously harming your health (see: insulin and smoking).

I'm sorry to hear you went through that, three times, and can only hope you've survived it. And of course, you have a baby to think of now. Born yet?!!