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15 December 2008 @ 08:58 pm
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Franny and Zooey, JD Salinger

I'd love to say I'm being rebellious by not reading The Catcher in the Rye first, but in fact the library just didn't have it. (Although maybe I get points for avoiding it when I was a disaffected teenager?)

I didn't understand this at all, but it didn't detract from my enjoyment of it. For one thing, it was short. I can put up with a certain amount of LOL-pretension before getting bored - a bit like the Yerkes-Dodson curve. Optimal levels of pretention. There were two elements of the actual style that I had issue with - for example:

She stood for a moment - rather as if it were a rendezvous point of some kind
like doesn't he know?

There's a lot of phrases like that, where the POV gets disconnected. (Or to use a favourite term of CC's, 'unhitched'.) Also, if he would stop using 'so to speak,' I'd be really fucking happy.

I liked the characterisation of Mrs Glass and Zooey is pretty awesome. I was confused initially, as Zooey Duschanel is a girl and I assumed she'd have to be named after the one other (fictional) character with the weird-ass name. I WAS WRONG.

It was as if Eve had asked Cain whether that wasn't his lovely new hoe lying out there in the rain


'The expression is Franny's young man [...] not her boy friend.'

lol no.

Not to set up some cozy, holier-than-thou trusting place with some sticky, adorable divine personage who'll take you in his arms and relieve you of all your duties and make all the Weltschmerzen and Professor Tuppers go away and never come back.

This is about the only part I gelled with, and I agree, Zooey! Not about praying but this, yes. And who WAS writing the whole Zooey part? It was Zooey, right, not Buddy? WTF?

I'm going to note down the quotes from Seymour's door, because I have to actual return this book at some point. (I hate the way libraries make you do that.)

O snail
Climb Mount Fuji,
But slowly, slowly!

Do you think God does not know that he is being worshipped in images and pictures? If a worshipper should make a mistake, do you not think God will know his intent?
Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna

I'd totally love to write fanfic about the Glasses. Is that evil and wrong?

Previously, on Book Glomp 2008:
Middlemarch | Invisible Monsters | A Thousand Splendid Suns | Love in the Time of Cholera | Oscar and Lucinda | Kim | Breakfast at Tiffany's | Atonement | To the Lighthouse | On the Road | Brideshead Revisited | Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance | Bonjour Tristesse | A Passage to India | Three Men in a Boat | Vile Bodies | Prozac Nation | The Heart of the Matter | Jinx; Airhead | Doomsday Book | The Gum Thief | Choke | The Stone Gods | Beauty | Before They Are Hanged | The Astonishing Life of Octavian Nothing, Traitor to the Nation
jehnt: penelope - happily ever afterjehnt on December 15th, 2008 11:24 pm (UTC)
hmm, I've only ever made it about a half-dozen pages into this book before abandoning it in favor of something more interesting. Maybe I'll give it another shot, lol.
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Scene girls: pink n aqua dressscoradh on December 15th, 2008 11:32 pm (UTC)
*amused* It is really not that long! And Zooey reminds me of fanon!Draco, hee.
jehnt: sga - teyla - walljehnt on December 15th, 2008 11:38 pm (UTC)
Well, I think I never made it through the Franny chapter because I was always stuck at the supremely boring conversations with the Ivy League guy or w/e happens in the beginning there.
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Art: b&w kissesscoradh on December 16th, 2008 10:18 am (UTC)
I was so sure they were going to need an abortion. I was disappointed.
queen of pain: harry potter: i'm transferring to hogwarn_isfor_neville on December 16th, 2008 04:51 am (UTC)
I was completely unimpressed with The Catcher in the Rye (books that have been on the ban list at one point should be awesome, right?), and so my friend told me to read Franny and Zooey. That was a couple years ago, and all I remember about it is that it was better than The Catcher in the Rye, but not good enough to be memorable, obviously. Both books are super short, at least.
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Art: white dressscoradh on December 16th, 2008 10:20 am (UTC)
I actually got Catcher out of the library once (before they swapped it, obviously ... probably for Twilight). It was definitely longer than F&Z, and I didn't get past the first chapter where he's walking down a hill towards a football match or something. Catcher and The Grapes of Wrath are inextricably linked in my mind; I kept thinking, 'So, where is the farm?'

I'll give it another go, if the library gets it back in. I'm not pushed to buy any of his books. Why was Catcher banned, incidentally? Or is that a spoiler?
queen of painn_isfor_neville on December 16th, 2008 05:51 pm (UTC)
That would be a spoiler, but it's pretty mild. I read it on my own, on summer break from college, because I wanted to know what the fuss was about the book. My thoughts after I finished it, were basically "That's it?"

I liked The Grapes of Wrath, minus every other chapter being irrelevant to the plot. It could had been a lot shorter. I had to read it in high school.
dirtylaugh: cassiekissdirtylaugh on December 17th, 2008 11:03 am (UTC)
WRITE fanfic about the Glasses. Plz.

I really liked this. The worst thing that can happen to a book is for it to be ridiculously hyped up for you before you read it - that happens to be the case for loads of people with Catcher and happened to me with The Great Gatsby, which I felt to be unbelievably meh at the time. Luckily, Franny and Zooey is not famous-like, so no-one had ever told me anything about it. And I approved.

I think you might prefer For Esme, with Love and Squalor, though, which is basically the same length but is made up of lots of short stories. And it is SOSOGOOD.

Seymour is in it, too.
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Bands: Katy Perry banglesscoradh on December 17th, 2008 10:46 pm (UTC)
I saw Esme in the library! But I have a passionate hatred for short stories (or rather, my inability to finish a volume of them), so I got Raise High the Roof Beam, Carpenter. Which apparently also features Seymour. :DDD

I bloody will end up writing fanfic for this family, oh god.