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12 April 2009 @ 06:53 pm
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I read the Sunday Times book review. (That counts as 'reading the paper', right?) And it strikes me how utterly POINTLESS so many books are.

Like: a personal history of jigsaws. Not even a history. A PERSONAL history.

Or: Allegra Huston's memoirs. Bearing in mind that Allegra Huston wasn't even technically Allegra Huston, why is her memoir worthy of publication? She's riffing off a name she doesn't even own! If I had to learn twenty facts about X to show off at dinner parties, X would NOT be Allegra Huston.

C'mon, world. Give me some decent published M/M stuff, where rocks DON'T fall and everyone dies. Or proper chicklit in the vein of Maeve Binchy and Fiona Walker, back when she used to kick it old school. Of course, I'm too busy with classics and cult fiction at the moment to read any such things - and Amazon has chucked M/M fiction off its bestseller list, which I'm sure is real encouraging to would-be writers - but seriously. Anything's better than JIGSAWS.
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o hulloah!: rndm; reading is sexybogged on April 12th, 2009 06:40 pm (UTC)
I'm going to be ignorant for a moment, but by M/M do you mean male/male relationship? The reason why I'm wondering is because I have this idea eating away at my brain every waking moment, but I'm afraid to try and get it published because I'm not sure if books about homosexual relationships (chick-lit for gay dudes, essentially) ever get published. And now that I've typed that out I realize how ridiculous it sounds, but it's an honest feeling so I'm not going to erase it.

But fklsnlrkem personal history of jigsaws. NEXT: my personal history with paint and watching it dry!
Merit: BGretameritjubet on April 13th, 2009 03:45 pm (UTC)
It does happen (I've read some of the books *g*). I did some quick checking, so you might want to check out gaywriters, [Unknown LJ tag] and maybe call_for_subs.
Merit: BBrendonmeritjubet on April 13th, 2009 03:46 pm (UTC)
Ah, html is beyond me it seems. It is literaryagents
o hulloah!: ppl; historical hottiebogged on April 13th, 2009 09:14 pm (UTC)
Ah, thank you very much for the sources! Much obliged! :)
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: halowrites: metal birdscoradh on April 13th, 2009 06:05 pm (UTC)
Oh, sure they do! They are not very common and nor are they, generally, very good, but they certainly get published. What I'd be interested in reading is exactly what you're describing - gaylit - but mostly any M/M stuff out there involves fantasy (thinking Jaida Jones, Ellen Kushner, that lady what wrote historical gay fiction about Persians - not the cats - Lynn Flellewyn. And those are just the ones I've READ).

Definitely not a ridic idea. Not at all!

INR. Or waiting for the dialup internet to connect, grr grr.
o hulloah!: art; walrus who is bad at innuendobogged on April 13th, 2009 09:14 pm (UTC)
This is good news! The book I want to write is roughly about two dudes who are roommates, one of them realizing he is gay and has a huge crush on the other roommate, who is one of those people whose sexuality no one in his friend group can exactly pin down, but who they are all pretty sure is straight excepting a few situations, which of course = conclusive evidence of a relationship possibility to the roommate slowly being driven to delusions by the double whammy of a) I am gay, and b) I think I love my roommate? Basically like an AU RPF fanfic except with original characters instead. Hopefully now that I've typed it out on a public domain no one will steal the idea, ha. I should be so conceited that someone would want to steal my ideas. ANYWAY!

kmflsrj My Personal Adventures In Making Copies.
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: halowrites: mirror comicscoradh on April 14th, 2009 10:12 pm (UTC)
OMG I SO WANT TO READ THAT. When are you starting? When are you FINISHING?
o hulloah!: rndm; flora and... fauna?bogged on April 14th, 2009 10:33 pm (UTC)
Ahhh ok, you have no idea how relieved that made me, because after I posted that I had this moment of like, OH MY GOD WHAT IF IT'S A HORRIBLE IDEA AND I JUST DON'T REALIZE GRAAHHHHANXIETY.

Also, I haven't started writing it yet but I am "collecting experiences" and trying to flesh it out right now. No pressure or anything, BUT: if you want to be my second pair of eyes once I get things rolling I WOULD REALLY BE HONORED.
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: halowrites: multicoloured heart pendantscoradh on April 15th, 2009 05:24 pm (UTC)
Dude, are you kidding? Give me that story! And, and you have my email if you want to brainstorm, right? If not, offwhitetower@gmail! :DDD
sleepingfingers on April 12th, 2009 06:51 pm (UTC)
Indeed. There are books I cannot imagine ever reading because, well, I can muster up no interests for them. But er. Maybe there are people out there who like jigsaws enough to be interested in other people's personal histories of jigsaws? *is doubtful*
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: halowrites: pink knittingscoradh on April 13th, 2009 06:07 pm (UTC)
Yes, but surely if you liked jigsaws that much, you'd want to DO them, not read about them? I mean, I now know who invented them and that they were once called dissected maps, from reading the review. WHAT ELSE CAN ONE POSSIBLY NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THEM?!!

This question will torment me forever, I think.
mrsquizzical: potter stephenfryreadspottermrsquizzical on April 12th, 2009 10:04 pm (UTC)
i read a lovely book that someone sent me called 'boy meets boy' by david levithan.

and i got a recent maeve binchy for my birthday and was so disappointed! :~( it really was just rehashing old story lines and gratutious use of old characters. *sigh*
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: halowrites: orange birdsscoradh on April 13th, 2009 06:10 pm (UTC)
I own that! It's supremely cute, but not exactly ... realistic. I mean, the gay happiness scouts? I wouldn't mind living in a world like that, sure, but I'd also rather read about someone who deals with the world as it is (and yet rocks don't fall).

Which one was it? I haven't read many of her new ones, but I return to Circle of Friends, The Glass Lake, Tara Road and Scarlet Feather over and over.
mrsquizzicalmrsquizzical on April 13th, 2009 09:16 pm (UTC)
the one i got was 'heart and soul'.

i think scarlet feather was the last of the good 'uns. i sort of enjoyed 'quentins' and at the time i liked how she brought in all these characters and made quentins this place of reference, but i think it just happened too much now? or something. i'm not sure. there were nice moments, but i really did find most of it a bit of a yawn.

my favourites that i re read a lot are 'light a penny candle', 'the glass lake' (LOVE that one), and 'echoes'. actually i don't mind 'evening class' and 'scarlet feather'.

every Starbucks should have a polar bear: halowrites: pink housescoradh on April 14th, 2009 09:28 pm (UTC)
The twins in SF about killed me. She's great at side characters - like Aiden in Circle of Friends. I forgot about Evening Class, it's one of the best! I love how Nora is like this magical Italian teacher. And 'if you leave the whole meaning of my life will have gone away.' She's not as brilliant as once she was, but she was pretty brilliant. imo.
mrsquizzical: roaninishmrsquizzical on April 14th, 2009 10:11 pm (UTC)
the twins and nora et al come back in 'heart and soul'.

i really wanted to like it more than i did.

i have her books lined up taking up nearly an entire shelf on my bookshelf. i have always loved her stuff. it's such a good gossip. so, i'm a little sad to not lovelovelove the latest stuff.
uminohikariuminohikari on April 13th, 2009 03:00 am (UTC)
Jigsaws...? The things that cut wood? *COMPLETELY BEWILDERED*
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: halowrites: cocktail umbrellasscoradh on April 13th, 2009 06:11 pm (UTC)
lol that is one meaning! The other is those cut up pictures that you have to join together again. Very popular with toddlers, who like to eat them.
oops: Heart eyesoddishly on April 13th, 2009 08:06 am (UTC)
Ahaha, a personal history of jigsaws. One better: my parents have BOTH read The History of the Box Crate. Seriously, what.

A romcom in a book! Playing James by Sarah Mason was my staple bad day book in school.

And I have three or four m/m books on my bookshelf at home, NONE of which I can remember the titles or authors to. Which ... is not helpful to you! Um. Oh, one of them is boy meets boy, as someone else said. Which is ... hmm. The main guy got on my nerves a LOT, but no rocks fall and no one dies, so. :D?

Edited at 2009-04-13 08:07 am (UTC)
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: halowrites: majestic catscoradh on April 13th, 2009 06:28 pm (UTC)
Wait. NO. Box crates can't have a HISTORY. Unless this is some kind of anthromorphoism where the crate carried the first copies of Playboy to savage nations ... please tell me it is.

I so want to check that out but the page is taking too long to load and also, AMAZON FAILS.

Yeah, it was a little TOO cutesy. The problem with M/M books so far is that they don't seem to address the issue in a real, charming way - or make them books you could sit down with next to a fire and over hot chocolate. O well.
Merit: BFrankmeritjubet on April 13th, 2009 03:50 pm (UTC)
I wonder what a personal history of jigsaws entails. The perverse part of me would be probably be disappointed. And then I wouldn't even be able to find it then, because Amazon would hide it from me... The Amazon fail has been termed a glitch by their PR. The internet does not forgive so easily, Amazon... (unless of course you provide shiny).
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: halowrites: child on swingscoradh on April 13th, 2009 06:01 pm (UTC)
hahah, a GLITCH. A glitch that, once repaired, means the bestseller lists will return to their previous states? If so, we may be lenient...
real men love discotakkatakkatakka on April 13th, 2009 06:19 pm (UTC)
Read Bright Shiny Morning by James Frey.

I just spent a weekend reading it, and I read slow, and it is a thick book, and I finished it in three days.

It's amazing. Set in LA, but it isn't out to glamourize it - pretty much the opposite. It's so beautifully written, four different main storylines orbited by hundreds of vignettes, and all of it is really, really, interesting. [/poignant /thought provoking /terrifying.]

Please read it & then discuss it with me. It's motherfucking wonderful.
real men love discotakkatakkatakka on April 13th, 2009 06:21 pm (UTC)
oh, and yeah, one of the storylines is m/m. forgot to mention that. heh.
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: halowrites: multicoloured heart pendantscoradh on April 13th, 2009 06:34 pm (UTC)
I have so seen that around and intended to buy it, like, four times. But things intervened. However! My stingey aunt has given me a whole thirty euro for my birthday so I'll go into town tomorrow and see if the two-bit bookshop has it ... if not, to the city, Batman! Either way, this is a pretty good incentive to finally read it.
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every Starbucks should have a polar bear: halowrites: orange birdsscoradh on April 14th, 2009 09:23 pm (UTC)

When are you coming to bandom, biatch? *pouts*