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17 August 2009 @ 01:35 pm
carry on, doctor  
I HATE PAEDIATRICS. HAAAAAAAAAATE. I have to learn lists like this:

Social, Emotional and Behaviour
6 weeks: smiles responsively
8 months: puts food in mouth
10 months: waves bye bye
12 months: drinks from cup
18 months: eats with spoon
18 months: symbolic play
2 years: dry by day
3 years: interactive play

Advance apologies for being one of Those Misanthropes, but - adults put food in their mouths all the time and we don't have to make a song and dance about it! I know I'm never ever ever ever ever EVER going to do paeds, so I wish there was an opt-out clause in this stupid motherfucking degree. EPIC SULK.

Speaking of other medically-related things I hate: House. Season Four. Irritated me beyond reason, maybe because I have so much more clinical experience than the last time I watched it. I just can't ignore the pseudo-CSI bits any more. Everyone's been to school, so - it's kind of like watching a school-based show where the teachers go around investigating the ~real reason why kids don't do their homework. I ... can't even come up with a decent comparison, it is that ludicrous. Equally so the way all the members of the team are experts in a given field but ALSO can run haematology tests AND histology stains AND genetic imprints. UM, NO? Each of those things requires years of training; you don't just up and go into clinical diagnostics afterwards.

HOUSE WOULD SO HAVE HIS ASS FIRED BY NOW. I deeply, deeply resent the way the show makes out that protocols are terrible, no good, very bad things that are only followed by boring doctors who don't care about their patients. QUITE THE OPPOSITE, IN FACT. Protocols are developed from careful research about what exactly helps patients and saves their lives. Also, WTF is up with all the lewd comments House makes to Cuddy? It's just so inappropriate I gag.

I liked the part about Amber and Wilson, although I can't really see House admitting that he needs Wilson to the extent that he negotiates 'custody.' I should have known it was the 'soldier who's gonna die shows off a picture of his sweetheart' situation. Ugh.

And seriously, seriously, a 'Dean of Medicine' who hasn't heard of tamoxifen? GET OFF THE GRASS. I want a doctor show that even remotely resembles what it’s really like (boring and tiring).
Current Mood: crankycross
Current Music: my boy builds coffins // florence + the machine
Harry's complete lack of ducks: stock: beware falling deathharriet_vane on August 17th, 2009 01:07 pm (UTC)
I've never seen a TV show about a school or a teacher where everyone involved wouldn't have been fired in the first ten minutes. And my mom's a nurse, so medical dramas never made sense to me; it never sounded like anything mom talked about from work. I have to stick to TV shows that I know nothing about, or I get too mad to watch.
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Art: disco ballscoradh on August 17th, 2009 02:06 pm (UTC)
The only school shows I remember are Boston Legal (or was that ... about law?) and Teachers. I think the point of Teachers was that they'd all be fired IRL.

I have to stick to TV shows that I know nothing about, or I get too mad to watch.

iawtc. I never got this mad watching Buffy. Except for the Riley parts.
Ginbackinblack on August 17th, 2009 09:48 pm (UTC)
Boston Legal is about law. Boston Public was about a public high school. :D
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Art: Pretty facescoradh on August 18th, 2009 09:50 pm (UTC)
Kat: [bandom] brendon mischeviouskyasuriin on August 17th, 2009 01:09 pm (UTC)

yeah, but no one wants to watch a show that's boring and tiring! (the always doing EVERYTHING annoys me too and I'm not even a doctor or in med school).

also, you never know when baby develop knowledge is going to come in handy! Maybe at a baby shower! Or meeting someone's baby where you can either snark, 'she hasn't been putting food in her mouth yet? pssht' or praise, 'wow, she's already been putting food in her mouth?' depending on who it is :D
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: halowrites: awesome tightsscoradh on August 17th, 2009 02:08 pm (UTC)
Heh. But honestly, there's so much more drama in the ordinary day-to-day working lives of doctors (and nurses) than these shows ever seem to plumb. It's all 'run this test, do this treatment' when IRL it's like 'WHERE ARE ALL THE FUCKING BEDS. NO REALLY.'

LOL MAYBE! I just tend to regard babies as cute decorative ornaments. I don't want to be prodding them. Le sigh.
Merit: BBrendonmeritjubet on August 17th, 2009 01:26 pm (UTC)
I've always wondered why medicine is so general. I mean dentistry is a separate course (in Australia at least), so I was curious why medicine can't be a little more specialised earlier.

I'm same about legal shows. What takes months, years takes place over a single episode in what seems like a couple days. Uh, no. What about Scrubs? I remember someone telling me once it was slightly more realistic than most.
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Disney: Lion King splashscoradh on August 17th, 2009 02:10 pm (UTC)
OH MAN THAT WOULD BE SO AWESOME. I'd never have to do paeds or geris EVER. AGAIN. Heh, I guess it's because most people aren't as ... focused in their hate so early as me?

Apart from the singing and dream sequences? Yeah, it kind of is. Cox is very realistic, except for how teaching-by-humiliation isn't so funny when you're on the receiving end.
Neeryneery on August 17th, 2009 06:37 pm (UTC)
I was curious why medicine can't be a little more specialised earlier.

OH GOD I WANT THAT SO MUCH. They've made me waste SO MUCH TIME on surgery rotations, when I'm never going to have to perform a single surgery on anyone ever.
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every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Fooish: pink party dressscoradh on August 17th, 2009 02:13 pm (UTC)
Producing insulin and stapes, malleus and incus? Hell yeah. For one thing, knowing the function of the pancreas is not intuitive, whereas people on the street could tell you when a baby should smile. So I never know the cutoff point for 'I know this already, duh' and 'Wait, I actually have to sit down and learn this.' For another, maybe the baby wasn't feeling happy that day! For a last, if I'd wanted to do veterinary medicine I would have become a vet...
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every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Art: tattooscoradh on August 17th, 2009 03:16 pm (UTC)
Obviously there's visual defects (go you!) but that would probably affect fine motor coordination more. Everything can fall under KITTEN: Congenital, Infectious/Inflammatory/Immune, Trauma, Endocrine, Neoplastic. And subheadings upon subheadings.

I don't know if my mind works differently or if it's just a case of throwing enough shit at a wall so some of it sticks. My mom pointed out I just have to survive this month of it and I'll never have to do it again, but I don't think the world is that kind...
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every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Fooish Marie Antoinette shoesscoradh on August 17th, 2009 05:42 pm (UTC)
babies are human beings who can't talk yet, here's how to find out if there is something wrong

I salute you. This is very true. (Someone still needs to invent a goo-goo translator, though.) And, I mean, this post is not indicative of how I would act towards any patient, regardless of age. I'm actually weirdly good with kids. It's just a vent for frustration.

I loved history in school. I liked knowing about things, like the Dreyfuss Affair. I miss it.
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every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Art: Christmasscoradh on August 20th, 2009 09:11 pm (UTC)
1. I had, like, a six degrees of Oscar Wilde moment there - the lawyer who prosecuted him was the same dude who was instrumental in getting ... some English lord hung for his part in the 1916 Rising (of Ireland). In the same book as the Dreyfus affair, for me. :DDD

2. I really liked the part about toddlers paying attention to EVERYTHING, as opposed to 'not paying attention'. It reminded me of Terry Pratchett - as so many things do - because there's a part, possibly in Small Gods?, where he talks about how human brains are designed to be boring because if we took in the wonder of the universe every second we'd do nothing but grin all day. Or something. And lol that it takes a Berkeley professor to point out that kids should just play! I'd like to see her experiments repeated a few times because the 'reactions' she's getting are highly subjective, but I think she has a lot of good things to say.

2. It does sound interesting! I don't tend to read non-fiction simply because I have no idea where to start. This sounds like a good place!
Maple: Lily Baby Harrymaple_mahogany on August 17th, 2009 03:51 pm (UTC)
I can tell you, too, that as a mother I find those lists so stupid and arbitrary they fill me with, well not rage, but complete annoyance and distrust with the medical industry. (Not the personnel but the 'industry')

'Dry by day' at two years, pfft.
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Kitties: self cleaning catsscoradh on August 17th, 2009 05:45 pm (UTC)
I ... can kind of see where they're coming from. I mean, you need some sort of average so that if there's something badly wrong, you can tell. But I can remember wetting the bed when I was old enough to remember it, and never in my life have I built a bridge of blocks (one of the tests for fine motor coordination). Yeah, to be a paediatrician requires skills I will never possess.
Neeryneery on August 17th, 2009 06:48 pm (UTC)
ER is pretty realistic, as far as TV shows go. They've even got a lot of the everyday drama that makes hospitals the fun places they are. ("WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU HAVE NO BEDS? I WAS THERE FIVE MINUTES AGO AND YOU HAD THREE BEDS FREE. NO SERIOUSLY, ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?" or the ever popular "YOU MADE ME WAIT FOR FOUR HOURS TO GET STITCHES, AND NOW YOU'RE TELLING ME THE WOUND IS TWO HOURS TOO OLD TO GET STITCHES AT ALL? FUCK YOUUU!")
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: halowrites: cocktail umbrellasscoradh on August 17th, 2009 07:19 pm (UTC)
iawtc! For some reason I never got into ER. Maybe because it was ten seasons old before I was even big enough to get into that kind of drama? Idk!
Neeryneery on August 17th, 2009 07:20 pm (UTC)
I only started watching the first season of ER two months ago, so I'm like twenty years late to that particular show myself.
Sereniaserenia on August 18th, 2009 02:46 am (UTC)
Milestones are annoying - I don't know any babies who stick to them! Not to mention most of them put food in their mouths long before 8 months. Hell, they put /everything/ in their mouths by about 4, whether it's food or not!

I'd be really interested to see a medical show that was realistic - I have no idea what it's like as an outsider, so I'd be likely to believe all the over-the-top rubbish.
I recall reading somewhere that Michael Crighton (sp?) was trying to make ER realistic to his own experiences working in an ER, but I think it got lost somewhere in the drama.