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31 January 2010 @ 10:53 pm
medical mayhem  
Part of being a FINALMEDFINALMED is having to go to lectures on Sunday mornings. They're good, though. It's mainly about practising being able to describe signs of illness for short cases.

One of them was dermatomyositis, which looks like this:

That's called a heliotrope rash, not because it looks like a heliotrope or is the colour of a heliotrope, but because dermatologists get sick of saying, "Yeah, it's this pink bubbly thing, okay? Yeah, exactly like the ten million other pink bubbly things you referred to me this week."

Then the doctor put up this picture:

... and we all went 'Awwww. :("

The doctor wanted to know why we didn't, "Awwww. :(" for the person. It's probably because the person was a patient and they tend not to be as cute as puppies, and also talk more. (Hint: when a doctor asks you about your family, it's because s/he wants to know if you have weird diseases running in it. Not because they care about your grand-nephew's tour of Africa.) But I wonder if it's some hardwired thing - like Pterry said, "People will give to animals what they won't to humans." Anyone have any theories? Or is this place dead on a Sunday, like I always suspected? (I feel like it's Monday because yo, my week has STARTED. DERMATOMYOSITIS, holla.)

I also need more medical icons, if anyone has recs. Would Watson count?
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My imaginary friend thinks I'm brilliant.lanitha on January 31st, 2010 11:05 pm (UTC)
No theories. But we are definitely more kind to our animals than to humans. We can euthanise dogs, but people we have to leave starve to death to 'prevent more suffering'.

Also? Patients tend to talk because they want to be heard. I know this is all meant in good fun, but I've had too many doctors who didn't listen, while I was giving them all the clues they needed. I'm ten times more fucked up because of that. Please/i> don't forget that in your upcoming carreer...
every Starbucks should have a polar bearscoradh on January 31st, 2010 11:11 pm (UTC)
I am totally pro-euthanasia, I have to say.

Oh, I know! I am very good at listening, actually, which is why I feel I can say things like that. (Good communication is two-sided, after all.) If I didn't want to hear those things I wouldn't ask the important questions and that would be a deficit in my duty of care. But sometimes ... you know ... when you're talking to the seventh 80 year old of the day, who's got so many problems you can't keep them straight, a little succinctness would be nice. ;D
My imaginary friend thinks I'm brilliant.lanitha on February 1st, 2010 11:57 am (UTC)
Well in that case, when they're 80, hopefully the colleagues before you did such a good write-up, that the dossier leads you automatically to the right questions to ask. ;-)
Aliciaaliciajd on January 31st, 2010 11:24 pm (UTC)
On the other hand, my cousin, who is a small animal vet, gets disgusted with a certain percentage of pet owners who will have a pet put to sleep if they have any medical problems at all rather than pay the cost of vet services. Then they show up the next week with another animal to start the cycle all over again. Fortunately, they are a small percentage of her clientele.
every Starbucks should have a polar bearscoradh on January 31st, 2010 11:29 pm (UTC)
Awwwww!!! D: If they were in pain, yes, but only then. I don't think any doctor would do that. Then again, we'd make terrible pet owners ... although I do want a kitten, very much.
My imaginary friend thinks I'm brilliant.lanitha on February 1st, 2010 11:55 am (UTC)
That's so sad.
It's like people having kids and people getting pets: Anyone can, while it's sometimes such a bad, bad, BAD idea! We still don't have any qualifying test for either to determine capability. :S
...chowburger on January 31st, 2010 11:53 pm (UTC)
Well, I've heard that dogs/cats/bunnies/whatever inspire parental feelings in people because of their big eyes and cute widdle noses and awwww boo goo dee dah, etc. And that's why we get so googly over them. I'd imagine that feeling immediately more sorry for pictures of them is an extension of that. Although I don't know if I'd go "aww" at a scaly baby... :/
every Starbucks should have a polar bearscoradh on February 1st, 2010 11:22 am (UTC)
I saw a baby with such bad eczema his lymph nodes had come up in big lumps all over his head and neck, and I went aww. You do.

The reason people find babies so cute is that their heads are adult-sized but their bodies aren't, so they're hugely disproportionate. Just sayin'. ;D
Tieleentieleen on February 1st, 2010 01:54 am (UTC)
I think this might -- might -- actually be a good thing about humanity, that we react that way to animals and kids -- things that are under our protection, basically. With other humans, our first instinct isn't 'protect' but 'this is an equal'; and that can lead to really fucked up things, as far as the will to help, but maybe the initial thing is right.

I'm probably a bit too optimistic about that. But maybe!
a kid on the lookout for transcendenceextemporally on February 1st, 2010 02:03 am (UTC)
I like this theory!
every Starbucks should have a polar bearscoradh on February 1st, 2010 11:27 am (UTC)
I was thinking that myself. A person might be able to pull themselves out of a barbed wire collar, or find someone who would, but could an animal? No.

I hope so too!
Sereniaserenia on February 1st, 2010 02:47 am (UTC)
I agree with lanitha on the euthanasia comment, although I also dislike the people who do what aliciajd describes - that makes me so mad!
I guess there's no real truth that applies to everyone - some people treat animals better than humans, some people treat animals like dirt (although many of them treat people like dirt, too).

Why can't we all be nice? *pathetic whine*
every Starbucks should have a polar bearscoradh on February 1st, 2010 11:24 am (UTC)
I get really het up over animal cruelty. Maybe it's the fact that they can't speak up for themselves or set themselves free, whereas humans do have an ability to do that - however limited.

oopsoddishly on February 1st, 2010 09:26 am (UTC)
1. I do not approve of your schedule. SUNDAY MORNING >:(

2. Music choice! *g*
every Starbucks should have a polar bearscoradh on February 1st, 2010 11:19 am (UTC)
1. It signals the beginning of the end!

2. INR. :D :D :D
(Anonymous) on February 4th, 2010 03:45 pm (UTC)
People aren't nicer to animals than humans. They routinely subject animals to horrific treatment with a complete lack of compassion. Just think about it- we don't eat humans. We don't wear human skin. We don't experiment on humans, at least not without consent and Declarations of Helsinki.

-anon medic