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19 June 2006 @ 10:56 pm
If you haven't been reading charlottelennox's investigative fanjournaling ... you should be.

My opinion:

It doesn't matter if it's biased or even wholly fabricated. I read Hello!. I'm not fussy. BNFs are fandom royalty and, like real-life royalty, they come in for both flak and slavish adoration. I'm as enthralled by their rise as their fall. They are only there to entertain and, yes, wank is a form of entertainment. Reviled as it may be. Granted, you come to the depressing conclusion that you're addicted to the Big Brother of fandom, but at least you're free from a screen-ful of boob-jobs.
Current Mood: excitedvastly entertained
Current Music: Fear (Paddy Casey)
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every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Team pinkscoradh on June 20th, 2006 07:28 pm (UTC)
Oh jesus, I don't doubt that the wanks themselves existed -- just that the person behind them was without doubt msscribe. There's always the slimmest chance that she might not be so I don't want to castigate her (too much ... because I'm really not that nice a person).

My view is that this was not so much a wank as a reporting on the controversy caused by a wank. Charlotte didn't at any point seem to want to get anyone's back up, except msscribe's. It wasn't a revenge. Hmm. Perhaps am too interested in this. Should try write fic or similiar. Yet stupidly feel under pressure to produce mucho fic before Book 7 in case fandom dies.

Yes, am insane.

Your icon artwork is gorgeous!
Insufferable, man.: mostafternoonscynicalpirate on June 20th, 2006 12:46 am (UTC)
Big Brother
They got you too?

at least you're free from a screen-ful of boob-jobs
Except I feel it's slightly worse when everyone's trying to be more witty and incisive and cutting and martyred than everyone else. Way to put three almost-consecutive 'and's in a sentence. More-intelligent-than-your-average-bear-people being snarky at each other is painful to read.

I wear red Converse. *draws a parallel idly*
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Blue dancerscoradh on June 20th, 2006 07:16 pm (UTC)
I've only seen it once, but the sheer surface area of breasts was astonishing to say the least. The 'girls' were dressing up for an eviction, according to my well-informed cousin who has Sky (I do not). I'm honestly suprised that they don't keep falling over with the weight.

I suppose one never grows out of the five-year-old habit of pointing at your brother and screaming 'HE DID IT! WASN'T ME!' Ho, hum.

I extrapolate! You're really Cassie Claire, arencha!?
Insufferable, man.: leavingfandomcynicalpirate on June 20th, 2006 07:47 pm (UTC)
The ballet!

For some reason, during one episode, all four girls who had had plastic surgery in the house were standing in a perfectly horizontalline, all wearing bikinis, facing in the direction of a camera. It only lasted for a split second, though - one of them turned round to talk to someone, another one walked off, and another one jumped off a cliff. Or made coffee, I can't remember. The beauty of it made me cry.

Ssh, you h0r. I'm currently incognito.
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Clarascoradh on June 20th, 2006 08:04 pm (UTC)
Lots of. Nodnod.

God. Brain splodey. Could you imagine if they had to like balance on one leg?


Just remembered -- I got an email from Multifaceted Awards thinger -- we got nommed for Camelot, best OC. That would be your Dick. (Oh god.) Anyway, there you are now!
Insufferable, man.: psychedelicpumpkincynicalpirate on June 20th, 2006 08:13 pm (UTC)
Pretty. (Not the one leg toppling, the ballet.)

Vraiment? Zut alors... ca m'a supris. Notre Dick, actuellement. Pourtant, yay nomination!

That would be your Dick.

Okay, I will break off from the bad and unaccented French to say that that sentence worked on so many levels. ♥
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Gauzyscoradh on June 20th, 2006 10:24 pm (UTC)
I had a balleticonspree last week. It's all just cropping of Googled images; my icon making skills do not represent. At all.

I believe there may be voting involved and pimping needed, but what the hell? What other OC could beat our Dick?

For the PWN.
Insufferable, man.cynicalpirate on June 21st, 2006 04:49 pm (UTC)
I've been thinking.

If Dick and Smythe had a showdown/rumble/went at it with their hammers and tongs, who would emerge victorious?
every Starbucks should have a polar bearscoradh on June 22nd, 2006 08:39 pm (UTC)
Hmm. That is a tough one. I mean, Smythe could seduce Dick, but would he want to? And Dick could blow Smythe up ... my money's on Dick. He fights dirtier. You?
Insufferable, man.: pornocynicalpirate on June 23rd, 2006 09:52 pm (UTC)
Yeah, but Smythe's cleverer than Dick. Like in the manipulative sexy bastard kind of way, not the H2SO4 kind of way. And Dick has no concept of people skills or human interaction, so Smythe could easily lure him into... hm. I don't know what. A hole?

But in a fight to the death, and not a mere battle of wits and articulacy, Dick would end up the winner, I concur. *nod*
amazing vaguely humanoid armadilloperson: heraldic armadillocryptid on June 20th, 2006 05:41 am (UTC)
Completely unrelated to your post: I don't know if you've seen it already, or even if you're interested in Official Spoilerstuff, but have you read the new sample chapter from A Dance with Dragons? Ee, Tyrion. *wibbles nervously*
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Cryscoradh on June 20th, 2006 07:12 pm (UTC)

If he's dead already GRRM will suffer toxic brainwaves, courtesy of yours truly ...
amazing vaguely humanoid armadilloperson: holier than thy mother (yea verily)cryptid on June 21st, 2006 08:42 pm (UTC)
'Tis right here, on his website. It's... worrying. (Even if it's cool as well.) Especially since he's one of my favouritest favourite viewpoint characters. I guess I shouldn't say anything more before you've read it...
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Clarascoradh on June 22nd, 2006 09:27 pm (UTC)
Worrying in the sense that, how daft would Iliryo (crap, that's impossible to spell) be to think that Daenerys would contenance an alliance with a Lannister? She knows as well as anyone that Tywin killed all her kin. And for some reason Tyrion's ambition to hold Casterly Rock was one I never thought was too important to him (until now). Also, there are a lot of typos in there ... when is the actual book due out?
amazing vaguely humanoid armadilloperson: !!!!!!!cryptid on June 24th, 2006 09:43 pm (UTC)
Looong comment, part the first
Well, I'm not sure if he'll be welcome at Daenerys's court, but while I do not presume to be able to predict what paths Martin may choose for his story, methinks it isn't completely hopeless. Tyrion did kill Tywin after all, that may go some way to prove himself to Dany (or, well, prove that he's not very popular with the other Lannisters, at least). And in the sample chapter that came with AFfC, it was quite clear that her dragons were getting out of control, and she hadn't the time or knowledge to do anything about it. We learned already in AGoT that Tyrion is fascinated with dragons, has read a lot about them and probably knows more about them in theory than anyone else they can find in that part of the world. She needs his help about as much as he needs hers, really... although I don't think she'll like that thought much at all.

No, what worried me the most was how dark this chapter was... Tyrion always had that black streak to him, but most the time he's really been one of the most decent people in the books, trying to be fair to those who deserve it. (Sure, much of that comes from a (selfish) desire to be loved, but who can blame him for that?) But here he seemed to have given in to the dark impulses almost completely. Understandable, what with the circumstances, but still worrying. The part where he imagined Jaime's head on a spike next to Cercei's, the one where he tried to make the servant girl react with fear rather than revulsion... *shakes head* I'd be sad if he did turn out to be a villain after all, even if he'd be one where I could totally understand where he's coming from. Well, I guess it remains to be seen if the following chapters gives him some of his hope back and makes him more like himself again.

I don't think Martin is finished with the book yet, so I guess we'll have to wait a bit longer. Let's just hope it won't be as long as for AFfC. >_o
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: 4 Weddingsscoradh on June 26th, 2006 10:04 am (UTC)
Re: Looong comment, part the first
That's true -- and maybe that's what George was setting up from the very time he started the book? It would be suitably wily and would help me forget the travesty that was A Feast for Crows.

Really? I found no such darkness in it. Sure, he thought about Jaime's head on a spike ... but let's face it, Jaime's always being on the look out for numero uno and no one else -- just like all the Lannisters. I don't think that Tyrion loves him any the less. Perhaps he just wishes circs were different, that Jaime had the courage to come with him, or stand up for him at home. You've got to remember that Tyrion knows that Jaime thinks he killed his son. Despite Joffrey not knowing about his paternity, and Jaime's indifference towards him, he's still his son. That kind of tie is not lightly broken.

As for the servant girl, I think it's understandable that Tyrion is depressed. He's in a far worse state than your average runaway criminal, because he's so recognisable. Everything he tried to build and everything he lived for has come crashing down around his shoulders. I think we should cut the little guy some slack.

I never thought he was a particularly 'good' guy. The only one who was was Eddard Stark, and his head ended up on a spike. That's the best thing about George -- he's a skilled painter of shades of grey, and just like with real people you never can tell what they're gonna do next.

I wouldn't mind if it was, as long as it was as decent as his previous works. I could read any amount of good fiction by him. :)
amazing vaguely humanoid armadilloperson: Gothy McGothburgercryptid on June 24th, 2006 09:50 pm (UTC)
Looong comment, part the second
And now I'm going to write a reply to your latest post as well -- it struck me that I never commented after reading Dancing With Ben Hall a while ago, so... I rarely read fanfiction these days unless someone sticks it under my nose and says 'read this right now, dammit!' ('ve had a bit of a hard time to gather my mind enough to read much at all, at that), but I noticed the third installment of that one, found the summary interesting, and went back for the first two. And the reason why I did read it was that I trust your ability to write more entertainingly than the vast majority of fanfic writers out there. You did not disappoint in the slightest, and I'm reminded that I need to make sure not to miss so many of your fics, because you can make things enjoyable that I'm normally not too keen on. My love for Hugh-Laurie-as-Prince-George-as-Lucius-Malfoy knows no bounds, and your rendition of the boys is also most amusing. (I'm still no fan of H/D, of course, but since that was AU, I figure that it isn't really the same Draco I know and would like to poke with sharp sticks anyway. Different nurture, lacking the nasty ideological and personal baggage that comes with non-AU Draco.) Your writing goes well with my taste, and apparently that of many others as well. Some people will not mind ellipses smeared all over the text, will actually enjoy prose so purple that amethysts look pale pink in comparison, will not care so much for entertaining plot, characterisation and dialogue as for, f'rinstance, contrived angst and lots of pr0n (don't know anything about the writer you mentioned, so I cannot say if any of these things are problems they have, but, you know). And I'm sure that lots more people have seen Scary Movie than La Cité des enfants perdus, but any claim that this means the former is a better movie is still utterly absurd. To put in in a very biased and elitist manner, lots of people like tripe. Many people may like good stuff as well, but will have a hard time finding it within the swirling sea of blandness. Doesn't mean that good writing is anything other than good writing. Like yours.

I hope that when you read this your mood has changed and I'm just telling you stuff you already know... but anyway. Yes, thousands of people can have terrible taste, or just not be aware of how much tastier things they'd find if they looked beyond the BNFs for a moment. And I'm sorry about this rambling and ill-phrased comment, but I'm tired and rushed, so it'll have to stay the way it is. ;P
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Art thou a witch?scoradh on June 26th, 2006 10:09 am (UTC)
Re: Looong comment, part the second
I loved that bit about amethysts and smeared ellipses (sorry, the damn layout won't let me highlight lone sentances). Strangely enough, what you say does make me feel a bit better. I mean, most of the time I have my superiority complex to back me up and assure me that yes, I am as good as/better than these schlock-merchants, but I just haven't got a good enough spin doctor. But then I start to wonder, because surely if I was as good as I thought then I'd get more attention? As far as it goes, I'll settle for 'elitist' over 'average' any day. :)

My mood has changed, I feel better (although still peeved that I'm constantly having to make the best of things and be grateful for what I have got -- not a bad way to be, but I wish I didn't have to be). Thanks for setting me straight, though. And it may just be mainly Harry/Ron in future. ♥
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every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Doctor?scoradh on June 20th, 2006 07:30 pm (UTC)
Fair enough!
Margravine Palavar: Van Dyck Margravine 2margravine on June 21st, 2006 12:52 am (UTC)
Oh the crazy wankiness! I can't believe how entertaining I found that.

It makes me sad to think that anyone over the age of 6 would need attention that badly, but I don't doubt that any of it is true. It's too insane not to be true.
every Starbucks should have a polar bear: Cat personscoradh on June 22nd, 2006 08:50 pm (UTC)
Moi aussi!

It really makes you re-evaluate what it means to be part of HP fandom ... before you return to your scheduled porn, of course. :)